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Subject: [Leica] IMG: Pythagoras / Milo
From: john.nebel at csdco.com (John Nebel)
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2012 21:29:51 -0700
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Geoff,

Thanks for looking and your kind post!  Iamblichus from the 4th cent AD 
is the source for the Pythia story.  A more reliable source is 
Aristotle, 4th cent BC, who documented that the Pythagoreans had a 
special affinity for Apollo, but did not drift beyond that into 
sensationalism.  The Pythagoreans were secretive and I recall that 
Plutarch wrote that he changed the subject when he saw one of his 
Pythagorean friends become uneasy when the discussion turned to 
Pythagoras.  Plutarch was a priest of Delphi in the 1st and 2nd cent AD 
and perhaps the most prolific ancient Greek author.

The coin probably does represent Pythagoras and Milo.

Best,

John

On 3/5/12 6:34 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
> John the subjects are always most interesting but the way that you are now
> documenting them ought to be seen for best practice for every curator and
> collector around. Technically superb work.
>
> By the way are you sure about that story or is it only a theorem?
>
> Cheers,
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>
>
>
> On 6 March 2012 10:26, John Nebel<john.nebel at csdco.com>  wrote:
>
>> Pythagoras was conceived while his father, Mnesarchus, was visiting the
>> Delphic Oracle, the Pythia.  According to the Oracle, Menesarchus's wife
>> would give birth to a remarkable son, she did and he was named Pythagoras
>> after the Pythia, and his father was presumed to be the god Apollo.
>>
>> Milo the wrestler was one of the most famous athletes of the ancient
>> world, a six time Olympic victor; his athletic and military feats were
>> compared to the god Herakles.  Milo was a student of Pythagoras's and
>> thought to have married his daughter.
>>
>> http://photos.csd.net/kroton_**nomos.html<http://photos.csd.net/kroton_nomos.html>is
>>  a photo of a dime sized coin issued by the city-state of Kroton about
>> 294 BC, a century after Pythagoras death; I think the city-state was
>> commemorating its two most famous sons.  It's a masterpiece of engraving,
>> and a wonder of preservation.
>>
>> The obverse is Apollo, and the reverse is the infant Herakles, son of Zeus
>> and the mortal Alcmeme, strangling two snakes sent to kill him by Zeus's
>> perpetually jealous wife, Hera.
>>
>> Mouse over the image to see the reverse, click for a larger image.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> John
>>
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