Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/03/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Or arsenic. A Hasselblad superwide was one of the key pieces of gear that photographers tended to buy used more than new. Even if they mainly bought their other stuff new. Like their 500C. I'd take a new one anyday or very latest one. I borrowed a new one once for a couple of weeks. In many ways they were improved mechanically as they went along. The CF lenes at the end had better baffling. And now ones showing anybody any pix of a non heavy metal lens performing less well than an older one. And no ones showing pictures of the Biogon on the Mamiya making better images than the Zeiss on the Hasselblad. Rockwell had a junky old example of a superwide he apparently sold before he bothered having it CLA'd. Mamiya is very nice company making very nice above average products but lets not forget this is Zeiss we are talking about here. The real one. The one making premium products out of Germany for top pros not a company making mass market items for motivated amateurs who are looking to save money and get a great deal! -- Mark R. http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/ > From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 08:48:35 +0000 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] (IMG) More film scans - Beckton > > I remember reading that a while back and went looking. I think it was to do > with too much lead in an element or something and people who had owned 903s > and 905s saw no difference.... > > john > ________________________________________ > > > Ken Rockwell (yes we know, we know) claims that the newer Superwide is "not > as good" since they took out an element or something to make it cheaper to > produce, and claims that the Mamiya 7 43mm is a "truer Biogon than the > Hasselblad (late) Superwide." What's your opinion on that? Obviously the > Mamiya 7 is not as good for architecture since it's a rangefinder. > > I don't shoot architecture, certainly not for money, so this is just for > edification purpose. > > On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> > wrote: > >> A Hasselblad superwide gives you a 6x6cm image from a true symmetrical >> classical wide angle lens with a very small footprint. Its very small and >> unobtrusive. In a way a medium format Leica M of the true wide variety. >> Its just as effective hand held as it is carefully used on a tripod. >> And its legacy combined with simplicity of operation puts it in a class >> beyond Alpa/Cambo. >> Certainly some of this Rodenstock or Schneider glass is more cutting edge >> but the Biogon is not a lens which needs to be improved upon. And its >> legacy >> is proved with an image search you can see the work of people using it and >> that work stretches back from the present many decades. >> A Hasselblad superwide or whatever you want to call it is not a here today >> gone tomorrow investment. Its remained supremely viable for half a >> century. >> >> Here's how it looked (the same basic design camera) 1954 >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/redpike69/2361508600/ >> >> -- >> Mark R. >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/ >> >> >>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 23:18:51 -0800 >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] (IMG) More film scans - Beckton >>> >>> I think we should let Biogon be Biogon. Most architectural people are now >>> using Alpa/Cambo with the digital back and using Rodenstock Digitar or >>> Schneider lens. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes a Hasselblad superwide could also get me scanning film. And paying >> for >>>> it. I've dreamed about that camera for half my life. A life support >> system >>>> for a 38mm Biogon T* CF. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mark R. >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/ >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> >>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 06:30:07 +0000 >>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] (IMG) More film scans - Beckton >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Mark, I have staved off the desire to buy back into film - well >>>> maybe a >>>>> 903/905 SWC/M again one day... >>>>> >>>>> Did you look at my http://johnmcmaster.com/PESO/Geevor shots? >>>>> >>>>> john >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Great shots! My kinda photography. And again I'm glad I still have my >>>> Cambo >>>>> 4x5. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Mark R. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Beckton Gas Works (east London) from May 1993 - >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beckton_Gas_Works >>>>>> >>>>>> I was first on this site in 1988 not long after Full Metal Jacket did >>>> some >>>>>> filming here, there were buildings painted with Vietnamese writing and >>>> a few >>>>>> palm trees still surviving. I will probably find some more photos from >>>>>> different times as I work my way through.... >>>>>> >>>>>> http://johnmcmaster.com/PESO/Beckton >>>>>> >>>>>> C & C welcome >>>>>> >>>>>> John Hasselblad mostly SWC/M, FP4+ >>>>>> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information