Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/03/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Look at a picture of a Mamiya seven and or hold one in your hands. Does it take your breath away? DO you really think its the same class of classic product as the classic Hasselblad superwide? If so you should please run out and buy one; make some pictures with it. The Mamiya 7 was a clucky piece of garbage. It reeks with "second-rate mechanical quality." a Rockwell quote. I hate to see it mentioned in the same paragraph as a Hasselblad superwide. A camera used to make countless iconic images by countless top photographers. Commercial and street both. The Biogon in the Mamiya 7 has more elements in it than the Biogon in the Hasselblad and that's a deal breaker? Quite funny. To think all these images made for so many decades could have been better! I really don't think anybody believes that. That haven't so far. The images blown up as big as a wall speaks for themselves. -- Mark R. http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/ > From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 00:07:38 -0800 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] (IMG) More film scans - Beckton > > Ken Rockwell (yes we know, we know) claims that the newer Superwide is "not > as good" since they took out an element or something to make it cheaper to > produce, and claims that the Mamiya 7 43mm is a "truer Biogon than the > Hasselblad (late) Superwide." What's your opinion on that? Obviously the > Mamiya 7 is not as good for architecture since it's a rangefinder. > > I don't shoot architecture, certainly not for money, so this is just for > edification purpose. > > On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> > wrote: > >> A Hasselblad superwide gives you a 6x6cm image from a true symmetrical >> classical wide angle lens with a very small footprint. Its very small and >> unobtrusive. In a way a medium format Leica M of the true wide variety. >> Its just as effective hand held as it is carefully used on a tripod. >> And its legacy combined with simplicity of operation puts it in a class >> beyond Alpa/Cambo. >> Certainly some of this Rodenstock or Schneider glass is more cutting edge >> but the Biogon is not a lens which needs to be improved upon. And its >> legacy >> is proved with an image search you can see the work of people using it and >> that work stretches back from the present many decades. >> A Hasselblad superwide or whatever you want to call it is not a here today >> gone tomorrow investment. Its remained supremely viable for half a >> century. >> >> Here's how it looked (the same basic design camera) 1954 >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/redpike69/2361508600/ >> >> -- >> Mark R. >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/ >> >> >>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 23:18:51 -0800 >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] (IMG) More film scans - Beckton >>> >>> I think we should let Biogon be Biogon. Most architectural people are now >>> using Alpa/Cambo with the digital back and using Rodenstock Digitar or >>> Schneider lens. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes a Hasselblad superwide could also get me scanning film. And paying >> for >>>> it. I've dreamed about that camera for half my life. A life support >> system >>>> for a 38mm Biogon T* CF. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mark R. >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/ >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> >>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 06:30:07 +0000 >>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] (IMG) More film scans - Beckton >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Mark, I have staved off the desire to buy back into film - well >>>> maybe a >>>>> 903/905 SWC/M again one day... >>>>> >>>>> Did you look at my http://johnmcmaster.com/PESO/Geevor shots? >>>>> >>>>> john >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Great shots! My kinda photography. And again I'm glad I still have my >>>> Cambo >>>>> 4x5. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Mark R. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Beckton Gas Works (east London) from May 1993 - >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beckton_Gas_Works >>>>>> >>>>>> I was first on this site in 1988 not long after Full Metal Jacket did >>>> some >>>>>> filming here, there were buildings painted with Vietnamese writing and >>>> a few >>>>>> palm trees still surviving. I will probably find some more photos from >>>>>> different times as I work my way through.... >>>>>> >>>>>> http://johnmcmaster.com/PESO/Beckton >>>>>> >>>>>> C & C welcome >>>>>> >>>>>> John Hasselblad mostly SWC/M, FP4+ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > > > -- > // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information