Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/02/24

[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]

Subject: [Leica] The smallest M lens
From: photo.forrest at earthlink.net (Phil Forrest)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 03:40:31 -0500
References: <20120224030932.5ebf165a@linux-pfy5.site> <CB6CB46F.1AA25%mark@rabinergroup.com> <CAF8hL-F6_Ewt8jLJSJN5rOZE_eTT=+nW6N=PtWaVvEMMHgiqzQ@mail.gmail.com>

It's still not as good as hacking up a Holga and making a mount for a
camera using tape and glue.
(Richard, speaking of Holga, how is that camera doing?)

Phil Forrest



On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:36:59 -0800
Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> wrote:

> Hey now Mark, people pay big bucks to use Holga lens on their Nikon
> cameras:
> 
> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/762097-REG/Holga_779120_Lens_for_Nikon_DSLR.html
> 
> All $24.99!!!
> 
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:28 AM, Mark Rabiner
> <mark at rabinergroup.com>wrote:
> 
> > Take a look at his shot it looks like it was taken with a Holga.
> > Of course your right about much of this glass not having stellar
> > corner performance like cutting edge ASPH modern glass does but
> > that is a far cry from the way the triplet image totally falls
> > apart at the sides visible even
> > in this rather low rez example. As in you're reading the words on
> > those signs and they fall apart. It looks like its out of focus.
> > But in the center
> > its sharp. Its like an effect.
> >
> > --
> > Mark R.
> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/
> >
> >
> > > From: Philip Forrest <photo.forrest at earthlink.net>
> > > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > > Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 03:09:32 -0500
> > > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] The smallest M lens
> > >
> > > The 50 Elmar, any 35 Summaron, and especially the 35 pre-asph
> > > 'Lux are certainly not known for their corner performance at all.
> > > Even the 90 Elmar is weak in the corners until it's stopped down.
> > > I'm willing to wager the 35 perar holds its own against the
> > > pre-asph Lux or either Summaron simply by virtue of modern design
> > > but also because those old lenses are not sharp across the plane
> > > until f/5.6 or even f/8. Granted, I love my Leica lenses because
> > > of their aberrations but to claim that Leica can do no wrong in
> > > comparison to this newcomer that is amazingly tiny then to bring
> > > up the very lenses that have the aberrations you complain about
> > > in the new one is just plain funny.
> > >
> > > Phil Forrest
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 02:36:17 -0500
> > > Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> There have always been plenty of very small footprint non
> > >> descript Leica lenes which add little to the weight and bulk of
> > >> an M body yet give full quality out to the edges as in the kind
> > >> of quality one gets into Leica for. And I'm not even talking
> > >> about the collapable Elmar a lens in chrome version my X has
> > >> gotten a LOT of use out of. She also uses or used the colorable
> > >> 90 elmar. But the 50 works on an M9. My 50 Summicron is light
> > >> and small. My 45 Summicron C is lighter and smaller. My 35
> > >> Summicron ASPH would be even lighter and smaller if it were not
> > >> the ASPH. And the summilux you can hardly tell the difference.
> > >> Half the Leica glass out there tends to be tiny. The default
> > >> filter size is 39. Those are my main filters for my Leica glass.
> > >> I have an old tiny 35 Summaron I could use on an M with an
> > >> adaptor. I got it for my LTM system I'm not sure what the cache
> > >> is for this Pera 35/3.5 lens. What it opens up for the
> > >> photographer that he didn't have opened up for him or her before.
> > >> Mr. Miyazaki may believe that a well designed triplet exceeds a
> > >> Tessar but this one gives laughable results at the edges wide
> > >> open. It looks like shot through a car window at an angle. For
> > >> all the big bucks and rhetoric you get a Japanese hand built
> > >> Holga. And at the same price a new chrome 50 Silver Elmar went
> > >> for a few years ago when we got one.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > philforrest.wordpress.com
> > > gallery.leica-users.org/v/philforrest
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Leica Users Group.
> > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more
> > > information
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Leica Users Group.
> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> >
> 
> 
> 



-- 
philforrest.wordpress.com
gallery.leica-users.org/v/philforrest


In reply to: Message from photo.forrest at earthlink.net (Phil Forrest) ([Leica] The smallest M lens)
Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] The smallest M lens)
Message from richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man) ([Leica] The smallest M lens)