Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/02/24

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Subject: [Leica] The smallest M lens
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:36:59 -0800
References: <20120224030932.5ebf165a@linux-pfy5.site> <CB6CB46F.1AA25%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Hey now Mark, people pay big bucks to use Holga lens on their Nikon cameras:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/762097-REG/Holga_779120_Lens_for_Nikon_DSLR.html

All $24.99!!!

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:28 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at 
rabinergroup.com>wrote:

> Take a look at his shot it looks like it was taken with a Holga.
> Of course your right about much of this glass not having stellar corner
> performance like cutting edge ASPH modern glass does but that is a far cry
> from the way the triplet image totally falls apart at the sides visible
> even
> in this rather low rez example. As in you're reading the words on those
> signs and they fall apart. It looks like its out of focus. But in the
> center
> its sharp. Its like an effect.
>
> --
> Mark R.
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/
>
>
> > From: Philip Forrest <photo.forrest at earthlink.net>
> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 03:09:32 -0500
> > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] The smallest M lens
> >
> > The 50 Elmar, any 35 Summaron, and especially the 35 pre-asph 'Lux are
> > certainly not known for their corner performance at all. Even the 90
> > Elmar is weak in the corners until it's stopped down. I'm willing to
> > wager the 35 perar holds its own against the pre-asph Lux or either
> > Summaron simply by virtue of modern design but also because those old
> > lenses are not sharp across the plane until f/5.6 or even f/8.
> > Granted, I love my Leica lenses because of their aberrations but to
> > claim that Leica can do no wrong in comparison to this newcomer that is
> > amazingly tiny then to bring up the very lenses that have the
> > aberrations you complain about in the new one is just plain funny.
> >
> > Phil Forrest
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 02:36:17 -0500
> > Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> >
> >> There have always been plenty of very small footprint non descript
> >> Leica lenes which add little to the weight and bulk of an M body yet
> >> give full quality out to the edges as in the kind of quality one gets
> >> into Leica for. And I'm not even talking about the collapable Elmar a
> >> lens in chrome version my X has gotten a LOT of use out of. She also
> >> uses or used the colorable 90 elmar. But the 50 works on an M9.
> >> My 50 Summicron is light and small. My 45 Summicron C is lighter and
> >> smaller. My 35 Summicron ASPH would be even lighter and smaller if it
> >> were not the ASPH. And the summilux you can hardly tell the
> >> difference. Half the Leica glass out there tends to be tiny.
> >> The default filter size is 39. Those are my main filters for my Leica
> >> glass. I have an old tiny 35 Summaron I could use on an M with an
> >> adaptor. I got it for my LTM system
> >> I'm not sure what the cache is for this Pera 35/3.5 lens.
> >> What it opens up for the photographer that he didn't have opened up
> >> for him or her before.
> >> Mr. Miyazaki may believe that a well designed triplet exceeds a
> >> Tessar but this one gives laughable results at the edges wide open.
> >> It looks like shot through a car window at an angle. For all the big
> >> bucks and rhetoric you get a Japanese hand built Holga.
> >> And at the same price a new chrome 50 Silver Elmar went for a few
> >> years ago when we got one.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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// richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>


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