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Subject: [Leica] OT (very) The Great Prostate Debate: Does ScreeningSaveLives?: Scientific American And a bit more to think about
From: ricc at embarqmail.com (Ric Carter)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 14:09:05 -0500
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Good insights--not rant

thanks for the share

ric


On Feb 9, 2012, at 1:29 PM, Aram Langhans wrote:

> I have enjoyed reading this thread.  The issue is important and also 
> points out how our society reacts to science and medicine.  When I retired 
> from teaching full time at the HS level, I started teaching a summer 
> biology class for non-majors at the local community college.  It has been 
> a lot of fun, and way different than my advanced high school classes.  A 
> bit more than a year ago, my closest friend for about 30 years was 
> diagnosed with brain cancer, and it was not good.  He was given a 20% 
> chance of living 6 months and he made 7.  But the last few he was 
> essentially not there.  This was after aggressive rounds of chemo and 
> radiation.  His wife, naturally so, was distraught with the diagnosis and 
> the treatments.  She cared for him at home until he died, and she was also 
> caring for her mother with dementia, who died 6 months later.  Lots of 
> stress.
> 
> At times she would make comments akin to; we can land a man on the moon 
> but....  We have all heard those kinds of statements.  It got me thinking, 
> and I posed the following question to my science class last summer.  "What 
> do you expect from science?"  It was an interesting discussion.  I was 
> surprised.   I had previously tried this question on other friends and 
> relations, and I got quite a lot of them expecting science to have a cure 
> or solution for whatever ailed them, be it medical or technological.  
> There's a pill for that.  There's an ap for that...  So, I was expecting 
> my class to put a lot of expectations into what they thought science could 
> do, but in my class I did not get much of that.  Even though they were not 
> science majors, most had a better idea of what science was all about than 
> the general public in my previous sample.  But, then again, this was the 
> best class I have had in the three years I have been teaching it.  I plan 
> on using this again this summer, if I get a chance to teach the class 
> again.   It points out that not many people really know what science can 
> and cannot do, and how the process of science works.  How complex some 
> things are, yet we tend to learn very oversimplified views in early 
> science classes and the media certainly does not correct that view.  Gene 
> for X discovered, cure around the corner.
> 
> The human genome project was supposed to answer all our questions.  Well, 
> as any scientist knows, the more you learn, the more you don't know.  For 
> every question you answer, it poses three or four more.  Now we are seeing 
> the possible roles for all that so-called "junk DNA", and we are seeing 
> the complex nature of RNA, gene regulation, epigenetics,  and the list 
> goes on.
> 
> Sorry for my ranting.  I just thought it related to the issue of prostrate 
> cancer.
> 
> 
> Aram 
> 
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