[Leica] Help with Nocti

[jbcollier at shaw.ca (John Collier)]

You want me to have someone photograph me taking pictures so I can prove 
that I photograph closer than 1 m? Perhaps a tape measure in the photo as 
well? Do they also have to be using a Leica camera?

:-)

John

On 2012-01-23, at 7:41 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote:

> I think seeing your pix John would clarify everything.
> I think old days of the LUG are over with writing about cameras and no 
> beef.
> Our beef is all on the internet now in galleries and websites.
> Its easy to see why someone wants to use a tele over a wide or needs fast
> lenses or macros when you just look at their pix.
> -- 
> Mark R.
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/
> 
> 
>> From: John Collier <jbcollier at shaw.ca>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 07:12:34 -0700
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Help with Nocti
>> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>> If I'd known this was going to upset you so much, I wouldn't have said
>> anything at all. If you look at what I wrote, you'll find I replaced the
>> Noctilux (50) with a Summilux (50). I mentioned the Summilux (75) to show 
>> that
>> it wash't the narrow depth of field that put me off. I very seldom shoot 
>> with
>> a tele. I either have a 35 or 50 Summilux mounted 90% of the time.
>> 
>> As to the why I bought the Noctilux, I shoot wide open a lot of the time 
>> so
>> when a Noctilux came available locally, it seemed natural to try one out.
>> However, it was my first normal/wide lens that only focused to 1.0 m. I 
>> use
>> the M camera because it is one of the few cameras that doesn't get in the 
>> way
>> of what I see. It's just a plain glass window to the world. Up until I 
>> bought
>> the Noctilux, I never gave the 0.7 m close focus limit a single thought. 
>> The
>> camera just worked. After I got the Noctilux I found myself, after 
>> framing my
>> shot normally, frequently having to back up. Not all the time but often 
>> enough
>> that I noticed. I don't want to notice my camera. I want it to disappear. 
>> I
>> sold the lens.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2012-01-22, at 7:08 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>> 
>>> One expects to see a portfolio in which the work revolves around 2 to 3 
>>> foot
>>> macro shots.  Is there a URL?
>>> The issue to me is not why one SELLS a Noctilux because it won't focus 
>>> to .7
>>> of a meter but why one BOUGHT one in the first place.
>>> I should think the portfolio of a Noctilux user would revolve around a 
>>> whole
>>> lot of low light shooting.
>>> Low light and close both?  Not that's a bit original!
>>> I'm not sure how many low light shooters are also close in shooters. It
>>> seems to me the ultra low light macro field remains wide open.
>>> You are not using a  75 Summilux to shoot what? Where?
>>> I don't see how a short tele replaces a normal focal lengh lens
>>> Id have thought a normal would replace a normal.
>>> 
>>> A normal which can feel wide when it needs to or tele with some inspired
>>> use. A 75mm lens is never going to feel wide. And I'd hate be the only 
>>> lens
>>> on my camera.. If my main lens was not a normal it would be a wide.
>> 
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