[Leica] Help with Nocti

[mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)]

I think seeing your pix John would clarify everything.
I think old days of the LUG are over with writing about cameras and no beef.
Our beef is all on the internet now in galleries and websites.
Its easy to see why someone wants to use a tele over a wide or needs fast
lenses or macros when you just look at their pix.
-- 
Mark R.
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/


> From: John Collier <jbcollier at shaw.ca>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 07:12:34 -0700
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Help with Nocti
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> If I'd known this was going to upset you so much, I wouldn't have said
> anything at all. If you look at what I wrote, you'll find I replaced the
> Noctilux (50) with a Summilux (50). I mentioned the Summilux (75) to show 
> that
> it wash't the narrow depth of field that put me off. I very seldom shoot 
> with
> a tele. I either have a 35 or 50 Summilux mounted 90% of the time.
> 
> As to the why I bought the Noctilux, I shoot wide open a lot of the time so
> when a Noctilux came available locally, it seemed natural to try one out.
> However, it was my first normal/wide lens that only focused to 1.0 m. I use
> the M camera because it is one of the few cameras that doesn't get in the 
> way
> of what I see. It's just a plain glass window to the world. Up until I 
> bought
> the Noctilux, I never gave the 0.7 m close focus limit a single thought. 
> The
> camera just worked. After I got the Noctilux I found myself, after framing 
> my
> shot normally, frequently having to back up. Not all the time but often 
> enough
> that I noticed. I don't want to notice my camera. I want it to disappear. I
> sold the lens.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> On 2012-01-22, at 7:08 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
> 
>> One expects to see a portfolio in which the work revolves around 2 to 3 
>> foot
>> macro shots.  Is there a URL?
>> The issue to me is not why one SELLS a Noctilux because it won't focus to 
>> .7
>> of a meter but why one BOUGHT one in the first place.
>> I should think the portfolio of a Noctilux user would revolve around a 
>> whole
>> lot of low light shooting.
>> Low light and close both?  Not that's a bit original!
>> I'm not sure how many low light shooters are also close in shooters. It
>> seems to me the ultra low light macro field remains wide open.
>> You are not using a  75 Summilux to shoot what? Where?
>> I don't see how a short tele replaces a normal focal lengh lens
>> Id have thought a normal would replace a normal.
>> 
>> A normal which can feel wide when it needs to or tele with some inspired
>> use. A 75mm lens is never going to feel wide. And I'd hate be the only 
>> lens
>> on my camera.. If my main lens was not a normal it would be a wide.
> 
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