Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/12/14
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]The original st 24-120mm f/3.5-5.6 AF-D had a good rep among photographers it was replaced in 2003 by the 24-120mm f/3.5-5.6 VR which had a bad reputation. It was soft had a huge amount of fall off and the first generation VR did not work all that great. But the current Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR GAF-S is second generation VR and its optical issues of the previous issue have all been addressed. Its a well thought of lens selling like hotcakes to all the smart people and some less smart. I don't think of as a do all lens I don't think the zoom range is all that wide and its not that much of a monster lens. its simplify extended from 24-85 to fit our current sensibilities and does what current optics can do. Its not the monster 28-300. Which may be an ok lens for what it is. VR is a huge thing for your shooting when it works right and from all anyone can tell it works perfectly on this current 24-120mm f/4 VR GAF-S lens enabling amazing low light shooting. That on top of excrement current nikon optics to begin with. Nikon is an excellent optical company wand when it messes up it does not mess up for long. With this current version of a key lens its got it right. -- Mark R. http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/onthisAutumnday/ > From: Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:51:07 -0800 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] High Rez Bergdorf's window > > thanks much Jay Sent from my iPhone Steve Barbour On Dec 13, 2011, at 8:33 > PM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> wrote: Steve, Yes. The AF-S > Nikkor 24-120 f4G ED VR, to give it its catalogue monicker, is a soft lens > with quite a bit of distortion at both ends. I bought it on specs without > trying it out, which I normally never do, which was an unforced error if ever > there was one. It is a lens that gives convenience at the cost of optical > quality, a bad trade off. IMHO, the older one (AF-S 24-85 f3.5-4.5G) is > lighter, more compact, less expensive and better performing, albeit in a > narrower zoom range. Both have AFS, and 'G' type lenses, but the older lens > does not have VR, which I have not found to be a material disadvantage in this > zoom range. It is going to stay on my D700 as my walk around, standard zoom > lens. Cheers Jayanand On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Steve Barbour > <steve.barbour at gmail.com>wrote: > > On Dec 13, 2011, at 7:56 PM, Jayanand > Govindaraj wrote: > >> Mark, >> I find the old 24-85 f3.5 - 4.5G lens to be > superior in every way. Buying >> the latest version of the 24-120 (the f4 > one) > > > is this the identical VR lens that Mark speaks of? > > Steve > > > >> was a big mistake - I am >> going to advertise and sell it this > weekend. >> Cheers >> Jayanand >> >> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Mark > Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com >> wrote: >> >>> I check B&H and find that > they sell a "kit" Nikon D700 SLR Digital > Camera >>> Kit with 24-120mm VR > Lens for $3,996.90 (and you'd think you'd have to > pay >>> Four Grand for > such a combo) >>> This is a lens I'd kill for. The pix I'd do with one would > take no >>> prisoners. I'd never sleep. >>> The lens itself cost thirteen > hundred bucks and uses a 77mm filter. >>> Not real Leica like. But will do in > the interim. >>> >>> And faster than a measly 700 millions miles an hour > too. >>> If that's as fast as I could ever go I'd get a tune up! >>> >>> > -- >>> Mark R. >>> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/onthisAutumnday/ >>> >>> >>>> > From: Mark William Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>>> Reply-To: Leica Users > Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:05:07 -0500 >>>> > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] High Rez > Bergdorf's window >>>> >>>> Mine too. >>>> -- >>>> Mark R. >>>> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/onthisAutumnday/ >>>> >>>> >>>>> > From: Gene duprey <grduprey at mchsi.com> >>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group > <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:23:20 -0600 (CST) >>>>> > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] High > Rez Bergdorf's window >>>>> >>>>> My D700 was lens free (No lens) >>>> >>>> > Gene >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: >>>>> "philippe.amard" > <philippe.amard at sfr.fr> >>>> To: "Leica Users Group" >>>>> > <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 12:32:09 AM GMT > -06:00 >>>>> US/Canada Central >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] High Rez Bergdorf's > window >>>> >>>> Le 13 d?c. >>>>> 11 ? 01:36, Mark Rabiner a ?crit : >>>> > >>>>> That's a perk on the nikon vs. canon >>>>> lenses. Their kit glass > really >>>>> has >>>>> great specs. As long as you don't >>>>> bang them going > through a door out >>>>> of >>>>> whack. They look embarrassing but >>>>> they > make very good images. Though >>>>> I've >>>>> not used one in over a > year >>>>> there is not kit glass for full frame. >>>> >>>> I bought my D700 > with the infamous >>>>> -free- 24-10 ; package by Nikon, Mark >>>> different > markets I guess >>>> Philippe >>>> >>>> >>>>> I >>>>> was shooting this > thing on P so it was wide open which was 5.6 at >>>>> 20mm >>>>> >>>>> which > means everything front to back is sharp as hell. I could not >>>>> even >>>>> > >>>>> believe it. That's also an advantage to shooting cropped. Its ten >>>>> > times >>>>> >>>>> harder for me to get it all with my 24-85 full frame glass > which in >>>>> >>>>> comparison weights a ton. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Mark > R. >>>>> >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> From: Jim Nichols >>>>> <jhnichols at lighttube.net> >>>>>> Reply-To: > Leica Users Group >>>>> <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 > 13:52:05 -0600 >>>>>> To: Leica >>>>> Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>> > Subject: Re: [Leica] High Rez Bergdorf's >>>>> window >>>>>> >>>>>> Very > nicely captured, Mark. Nice to find a gem among the bargain >>>>> >>>>>> > lenses. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jim Nichols >>>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA >>>>>> ----- > Original Message >>>>> ----- >>>>>> From: "Mark Rabiner" > <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>>>>> To: "Leica Users >>>>> Group" > <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 12:01 PM >>>>>> > >>>>> Subject: [Leica] High Rez Bergdorf's window >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I > was going over >>>>> window's I'd shot Dec 12 2008 at Bergdorf's that >>>>>>> > night and >>>>>>> was >>>>> amazed by the detail and high quality so I checked > the >>>>>>> metadata to >>>>> see >>>>>>> which of my real money Nikon glass > I'd shot it with. The 28 1.4 or >>>>> >>>>>>> perhaps >>>>>>> 14 2.8. >>>>>>> > http://tinyurl.com/c4bmnog >>>>>>> It turned out the >>>>> be the lowly 99 > dollar special 18.0-55.0 mm f/ >>>>>>> 3.5-5.6 DX >>>>>>> non VR >>>>> which > you get when you click the sort for cheaper at top >>>>>>> bottom on >>>>>>> > >>>>> the Adorama or B&H sites. Maybe Calumet. >>>>>>> So I left it at a much > higher >>>>> rez than 1200 pixels on the long >>>>>>> end so you >>>>>>> can > really see it when >>>>> you click the zoom in button on the LUG >>>>>>> > gallery. >>>>>>> The iso was 400 so >>>>> there really was a lot of light in > these >>>>>>> window. And it >>>>>>> makes for >>>>> some real quality > images. >>>>>>> The windows at Bergdorf's which are the best >>>>> I've ever > seen >>>>>>> anywhere have >>>>>>> not been as good the past three of >>>>> > years. 09 and 10 and '11. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Mark R. >>>>>>> >>>>> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users > Group. >>>>>>> See >>>>> http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for > more >>>>> information >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users > Group. >>>>>> See >>>>> http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> > See >>>>> http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> > information >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> > Leica Users >>>>> Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug > for more >>>>> information >>>> >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users >>>>> > Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users > Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> > Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica > Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information > _______________________________________________ Leica Users > Group. 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