Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/12/07
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Boys, this is America! Litigation is always in order! Bill Pearce -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Willman Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 12:43 PM To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG mail being blocked by bad ISPs, some people auto-unsubscribed I wonder if such behavoir (by van Riel) constitutes defamation, and if litigation (or the threat thereof) might be of use. -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+bryanwi=bryanwi.com at leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+bryanwi=bryanwi.com at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Brian Reid Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 4:07 PM To: lug at leica-users.org Subject: [Leica] LUG mail being blocked by bad ISPs, some people auto-unsubscribed A bunch of LUG subscribers have been auto-unsubscribed because of a lazy ideologue in Merrimack New Hampshire named Rik van Riel. Rik believes that he has the only solution to the spam detection problem, and unfortunately a few ISPs believe him. Responsible ISPs use dozens upon dozens of factors to classify something as spam. Since van Riel doesn't charge for his spam-finding service, cheapo ISPs will sometimes use it and only it. When van Riel's spam detectors make a mistake (which he, of course, believes is not possible) then mail stops getting delivered to the customers of the ISPs that depend on his free service. If you are one of the people whose LUG subscription went away, you can think bad thoughts about Rik van Riel. Ideologues like him rarely change their position as a result of argument from other people, so there is no point trying to yell at him or reason with him. In a certain sense the real villains are the owners of the ISPs that are too cheap to buy real commercial spam-blocking service, which requires human participation and is therefore not free. The only viable long-term solution to false-positive spam nightmares is to find a responsible ISP. Cheapo ISPs are going to use cheapo spam-control companies, who invariably lock onto free services run by ideologues. If you are one of the victims, you of course aren't getting this email, but you might see it on the website or you might get a copy forwarded from a friend. _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information