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Subject: [Leica] Going digital with M lenses (outside of M8/M9)?
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 00:28:36 -0400

So we'll skip the part about if anybody has ever gotten any results out of
it yet worth looking at I guess.


Mark William Rabiner



> From: Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:55:04 +0530
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Going digital with M lenses (outside of M8/M9)?
> 
> Mark,
> If it does not excite you, do not buy/use it. Simple. Period.
> Cheers
> Jayanand
> 
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> The issue is not ease of focusing or  stop down shooting but putting an
>> exquisite and pricey and manual Leica lens designed to cover a 24x36mm 
>> area
>> on a camera which has a 18x13.5mm  format with a diagonal of 22.5mm and is
>> otherwise a pile of compact electronics.
>> That does not excite me nor appeal to my common sense.
>> Should such a camera have at least a 1.5 crop , 1.33 crop or 1x crop and
>> have no or minor issues as to seamless use I'd be paying more attention to
>> that.
>> 
>> However this is partly becuae I'm not aware of anybody using such a set up
>> getting some real results that I can remember seeing.
>> People talk about their cameras. They don't talk about their pictures.
>> If someone has a gallery perhaps on the LUG please direct me to it and I'm
>> sure seeing a body of work done with such an arrangement would get me to
>> modify my thinking and change my tune. Especially if its an impressive
>> showing.
>> I'm talking about a folder with 4/3s pix in it taken with Leica glass on a
>> GAF-1 body. Or similar 4/3's option which I seem to be dimly aware of.
>> Perhaps some semi serious application.
>> 
>> 
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:16:08 +0530
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Going digital with M lenses (outside of M8/M9)?
>>> 
>>> Mark,
>>> As usual, you do not understand context. Well, let me explain. It makes
>> it
>>> irrelevant to go to a lot of trouble to use Leica M lenses on the camera
>>> bodies under discussion, when using Lumix and/or Olympus lenses is far
>> more
>>> efficient and simple, unless you want to shoot wide open or thereabouts,
>>> which is Leica's strength over the others.
>>> 
>>> Have you tried focusing a 90mm Elamrit M lens on a GF-1 body? Not
>>> surprisingly, I thought you had not. Let me tell you it is no picnic, and
>> I
>>> would probably just go out and buy a Panasonic 100-300 or something if I
>>> wanted that range.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Jayanand
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The idea that stopping down makes it irrelevant to use Leica lenes is
>>>> patently absurd. What if you wanted to get something in focus? You need
>> to
>>>> stop down for most shots. The extremely selective focus thing can only
>> get
>>>> you so far.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:43:23 +0530
>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Going digital with M lenses (outside of M8/M9)?
>>>>> 
>>>>> They work well, as Nathan says, on the GF-1, but they are very
>> difficult
>>>> to
>>>>> focus properly wide open on the EVF. If you have to stop down, why use
>>>> Leica
>>>>> lenses in the first place? I think the quality of the viewfinder is
>>>>> critical, so check that out. Alternatively use ultra wides where
>> focusing
>>>> is
>>>>> a non issue.
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Jayanand
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at 
>>>>> frozenlight.eu
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Jan,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I find that using M lenses on my GF-1 works quite well. I use the
>>>> adapter
>>>>>> from Cameraquest. In fact, I just bought the 12mm non-rangefinder
>>>> coupled CV
>>>>>> lens, and it works brilliantly on the GF-1. And of course the fact
>> that
>>>> it
>>>>>> is not rangefinder-coupled is of no consequence in this case.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>>>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> YNWA
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 26, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Jan Decher wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>>>> What's currently  the best way to take my M and ZM lenses to  digital
>>>>>>> (outside of M8/M9)?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I considering buying a Micro 4/3rds body (Olympus, Panasonic) perhaps
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> one indigenous "pancake-type" lens  and the M adapter.  Any issues
>> with
>>>>>>> metering, manual focussing etc. to be aware of?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Which adapter is the best (Novoflex, CameraQuest, EBAY
>> China-made...)?
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>>> 
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