Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/03/11
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]wages are perhaps the least important element in collective bargaining ric On Mar 11, 2011, at 5:04 PM, George Lottermoser wrote: > On Mar 11, 2011, at 3:47 PM, Frank Filippone wrote: > >> What does collective bargaining have to do with this argument? > > Precisely what we're asking. > >> NO MONEY. > > We must stop pretending that this is so. > Call it the canard that it is. > MONEY did not disappear. > Perceived VALUE has diminished. > The MONEY still exists and we know who has it. > >> Something needs to be done >> to balance or attempt to balance budgets, and there are only a few ways to >> save money. > > Why will no discuss REVENUE. > Every budget has two elements: Income. Expenses. > When expenses have been cut to the bone > one MUST discuss INCOME. > >> You STOP SPENDING. And then you look for ways to balance >> your personal expenses..... > > AND INCREASE INCOME! > >> Why should anyone think Government is or should >> be different? > > Shouldn't. > >> Pension reform is coming..... if only by the mandate of bankruptcy... no >> tax >> revenue money = no government money = no pension money = no payouts.... > > Why are we not talking about off-shore tricks? > Why are we not talking about the IRS enforcing existing regulations and > collections > from the largest tax dodgers and loophole exploiters? > We must stop the "let's pretend" manners > as if we don't want to offend our hosts. > >> Sorry for all of you out there that do get a pension ( teachers, other >> government employees, and you too commercial Union pensioneers, etc....) > > In Wisconsin about the only solvent, in the black, pool is the teachers > pension fund. > I guarantee that this governor will raid that self sufficient fund > and give it to his corporate cronies under the guise of business > incentives. > These are rip-off schemes. > I have grown so tired of this "let's pretend" game. > >> Collective bargaining is or should be efficient, not unassailable...... > > > It is a SIMPLE and NECESSARY concept > of a group of adults sitting down and discussing these matters > IN GOOD FAITH. > Whether one does for him or herself. > or as a group - it is obviously necessary. > > Regards, > George Lottermoser > george at imagist.com > http://www.imagist.com > http://www.imagist.com/blog > http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information