Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/03/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Le 8 mars 11 ? 18:18, Lluis Ripoll a ?crit : > > Hi Steve, > > Thank you! > > Real!, is the second time I go to this performance, a great cast and > staging!, in total (with the rest time) 5 hrs 15 min!, music only 4 > hours 15 > min. > > I like very much this one! and probably I'll go back next Saturday, > a friend > will gave me a ticket. > Lluis, have you got spare room for me in your camera bag ? ;-) Enjoy my friend, music along with photography is also such a treasure Amiti?s aux Mousquetaires Philippe > Amiti?s > Lluis > > > 2011/3/8 Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> > >> >> On Mar 8, 2011, at 8:10 AM, Lluis Ripoll wrote: >> >>> Hi Ted and Nathan, mes amis >>> >>> Maybe I was too enthousiast saying "film is better" instead of "I >>> like >>> better B&W on film". IMO there are two things that film gives >>> better than >>> digital, at least for my experience. The blacks are more deepth, >>> more >> dense, >>> no noise in the shadows or lower light areas, the higlights are not >> blocked. >>> Maybe I don't have enough skills on digital, but I'm much more fast >> editing >>> at PS a B&W picture from film than converting it from digital >>> color to >> B&W. >>> >>> It was a while I've not used film, after 2 or 3 months I'm using >>> Silver >> Efex >>> Pro, yes this is fine and I can get better results and approach much >> better >>> the film, but in general I find that film give me better results >> according >>> to my preferences. >>> >>> You say that actually you think in color, and this is arriving to >>> me too, >>> digital color is so nice and immediate that it becomes difficult >>> think on >>> B&W or maybe do a conversion that it satisfy you better than the >>> color >>> version. Probably this is too influenced by a psichological >>> "effect", you >>> immediately see a color digital picture and can do also >>> immediately the >>> conversion; with film this arrives after some hours or days and >>> you have >>> already forgett the natural colors of the scene, than when you >>> scann and >>> see, I say "oh! is beautiful!". >>> >>> I hope I have give a response to your questions, maybe wrong..., but >>> according to my experience and skills on digital. I don't know if >>> the >> sensor >>> of a M9 is better corrected for the things I've commented. I think >>> that >> it >>> should be a special firmware or sensor to do directly B&W... I don't >> think >>> that B&W could be defined as simply "substract the color", the >>> original >>> invention was different. >>> >>> This is my opinion....., my 2 cents ... >>> >>> I don't think I can write today more comments about this subject, >>> now I'm >> on >>> the office and I go to the Opera House in one hour. >> >> >> enjoy Parsifal... >> >> how many hours? >> >> digital or real? >> >> >> best Steve >> >> >> >> >>> >>> Thanks for your questions! >>> >>> cheers >>> Lluis >>> >>> >>> >>> 2011/3/8 <tedgrant at shaw.ca> >>> >>>> Lluis Ripoll said: >>>> >>>>> M7, Elmarit 28mm Asph, Plus X..... Film is better! <<<< >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> Nathan Offered: >>>> >>>>>> Very nice, Lluis, especially the 2nd and last one. I don't know >>>>>> if >> film >>>>>>> is better, it is just different.<<<< >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> Hi both, :-) >>>> >>>> Lluis and Nathan a couple of questions? >>>> >>>> 1/ Why do you say "Film is better?" >>>> >>>> 2/ "Where do you think film is better?" >>>> >>>> Since I became "Hooked on digital," it has never occurred to me >>>> to ever >> go >>>> back to film..... "OF ANY KIND!" Or even think about it. And >>>> don't miss >> it >>>> for one milli-second! >>>> >>>> I shoot nothing but digital with various cameras and I still >>>> expose the >>>> neat things I did with film. Actually, I think in colour "digital >>>> colour >> is >>>> immediate, result is right there in a moment!" No need to or >>>> rarely need >> to >>>> bracket frame after frame as we did with film. Nor do I have to >>>> take it >> to >>>> the lab, wait for the developing a couple of hours? Days? Weeks? >> Depending >>>> which film I was using? >>>> >>>> And as I understand from Tina and others, today there is >>>> software? I >> think >>>> that's what it is? You can make digital images look like they >>>> were shot >> on >>>> film. But being me, my response is always "WHY? AND WHO CARES?" >> Certainly if >>>> the content is a smashing great content! After all isn't it the >>>> content >> that >>>> matters most and not whether the image looks like Tri-x, >>>> Kodachrome or >>>> whatever?Just a couple of early morning thoughts and questions. >>>> cheers, >>>> ted >>>> >>>> ================================================ >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan Wajsman" < >> photo at frozenlight.eu> >>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 11:02 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] The MACBA & El Raval >>>> >>>> >>>> Very nice, Lluis, especially the 2nd and last one. I don't know >>>> if film >> is >>>>> better, it is just different. >>>>> >>>>> Saludos, >>>>> Nathan >>>>> >>>>> Nathan Wajsman >>>>> Alicante, Spain >>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu >>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu >>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com >>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >>>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >>>>> >>>>> YNWA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 5, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Lluis Ripoll wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The MACBA is the Museum of art contemporary in Barcelona >>>>>> >>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/El_Raval/2011020228w.jpg.html >>>>>> >>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/El_Raval/2011020227w.jpg.html >>>>>> >>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/El_Raval/2011020216w.jpg.html >>>>>> >>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/El_Raval/2011020210w.jpg.html >>>>>> >>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/El_Raval/2011020208w.jpg.html >>>>>> >>>>>> M7, Elmarit 28mm Asph, Plus X..... Film is better! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for looking, your c&c are welcome >>>>>> >>>>>> Saludos >>>>>> Lluis >>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/ >>>>>> http://photo.net/photos/lluisripoll >>>>>> Blog: >>>>>> http://lluisripollphotography.wordpress.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>> information >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >