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Subject: [Leica] IMG: Yellow Butterfly Replacement
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 01:29:53 -0400

I don't think I was getting all intense with your Jim!

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Mark William Rabiner
Photography
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
mark at rabinergroup.com


> From: Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 23:30:18 -0500
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Yellow Butterfly Replacement
> 
> Mark,
> 
> There is no point in continuing this, as we will never agree.  I'm just an
> 80-yr old guy who shoots photos for fun, and really couldn't care less how
> they measure up to your so-called "standards".  I purchase gear that serves
> me well, for MY purposes.  What you must do to make a living in this crazy
> world of photography is really up to you.  My late father-in-law gave it up
> and went into local politics.  I'm not sure either is a real money maker
> these days.
> 
> Jim Nichols
> Tullahoma, TN USA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 10:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Yellow Butterfly Replacement
> 
> 
>> Your right its the black borders which had everybody even I feel the
>> Magnum
>> guys all uppity about the sanctity of their original visions in the 90's
>> and
>> before. They just wanted to keep their black borders which they'd loose
>> with
>> any cropping in the darkroom. Their images were cropped later anyway by
>> photo editors down the line.
>> The point I'm making is a reluctance to show a print which is cropped from
>> a
>> smaller image circle at a larger size perhaps....
>> Another way it put it is if a guy is shooting full frame he can crop like
>> crazy and still fill the screen with the picture.
>> This is why its good to have as large a format to work with as is
>> practical.
>> 
>> --------------------
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photography
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>> mark at rabinergroup.com
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 22:21:39 -0500
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Yellow Butterfly Replacement
>>> 
>>> Mark,
>>> 
>>> This image is 60% of the full image, cropped to eliminate unnecessary
>>> intrusions.  I make no claim of presenting black framed images from
>>> filed-out negative carriers.  When trying to get insect photos, I catch
>>> them
>>> in their world, not mounted on a pin.  Some cropping is always necessary
>>> because they never pose when I say "cheese".
>>> 
>>> Jim Nichols
>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 9:52 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Yellow Butterfly Replacement
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> When I'm looking at a picture I'm not worrying about how it got there,
>>>> what
>>>> camera took it but when its not big enough because its cropped from a
>>>> smaller than necessary format then its brought to my attention and we
>>>> can
>>>> talk about that instead of the picture. All I see is the result which is
>>>> a
>>>> bit small to really see but seems fuzzy.
>>>> 
>>>> --------------------
>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>> Photography
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>>> mark at rabinergroup.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net>
>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18:03:39 -0500
>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Yellow Butterfly Replacement
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's bigger than lifesize, which I believe is big enough for anyone who
>>>>> is
>>>>> not bit-peeping.  It's also 4/3, which I know you hate anyway.  The
>>>>> wing
>>>>> detail is there, and the rest doesn't need to be sharp.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Have a good evening!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 4:18 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Yellow Butterfly Replacement
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Too small to really know what we're looking at;
>>>>>> Clicking on a pic to make it bigger is such an internet convention and
>>>>>> expectation. At the size its at it looks soft.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --------------------
>>>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>>>> Photography
>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>>>>> mark at rabinergroup.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net>
>>>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:27:27 -0500
>>>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: Olympus Camera Discussion <olympus at thomasclausen.net>
>>>>>>> Subject: [Leica] IMG: Yellow Butterfly Replacement
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I was not satisfied with the image I posted yesterday, so I tried
>>>>>>> again
>>>>>>> today,
>>>>>>> using a longer lens.  I have replaced the original image with one
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> today's
>>>>>>> shoot.  E-1 with 200/4 Takumar + 2X extender, using an old Star-D
>>>>>>> tripod
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> a monopod.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Yellow+Butterfly.jpg.html
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Comments and critiques welcomed.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>>>>> 
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