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Subject: [Leica] IMG: Yellow Butterfly Replacement
From: jhnichols at lighttube.net (Jim Nichols)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 23:30:18 -0500
References: <C8D95038.4E5A%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Mark,

There is no point in continuing this, as we will never agree.  I'm just an 
80-yr old guy who shoots photos for fun, and really couldn't care less how 
they measure up to your so-called "standards".  I purchase gear that serves 
me well, for MY purposes.  What you must do to make a living in this crazy 
world of photography is really up to you.  My late father-in-law gave it up 
and went into local politics.  I'm not sure either is a real money maker 
these days.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Yellow Butterfly Replacement


> Your right its the black borders which had everybody even I feel the 
> Magnum
> guys all uppity about the sanctity of their original visions in the 90's 
> and
> before. They just wanted to keep their black borders which they'd loose 
> with
> any cropping in the darkroom. Their images were cropped later anyway by
> photo editors down the line.
> The point I'm making is a reluctance to show a print which is cropped from 
> a
> smaller image circle at a larger size perhaps....
> Another way it put it is if a guy is shooting full frame he can crop like
> crazy and still fill the screen with the picture.
> This is why its good to have as large a format to work with as is 
> practical.
>
> --------------------
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photography
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
> mark at rabinergroup.com
>
>
>> From: Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 22:21:39 -0500
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Yellow Butterfly Replacement
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> This image is 60% of the full image, cropped to eliminate unnecessary
>> intrusions.  I make no claim of presenting black framed images from
>> filed-out negative carriers.  When trying to get insect photos, I catch 
>> them
>> in their world, not mounted on a pin.  Some cropping is always necessary
>> because they never pose when I say "cheese".
>>
>> Jim Nichols
>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 9:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Yellow Butterfly Replacement
>>
>>
>>> When I'm looking at a picture I'm not worrying about how it got there,
>>> what
>>> camera took it but when its not big enough because its cropped from a
>>> smaller than necessary format then its brought to my attention and we 
>>> can
>>> talk about that instead of the picture. All I see is the result which is 
>>> a
>>> bit small to really see but seems fuzzy.
>>>
>>> --------------------
>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>> Photography
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>> mark at rabinergroup.com
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net>
>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18:03:39 -0500
>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Yellow Butterfly Replacement
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>
>>>> It's bigger than lifesize, which I believe is big enough for anyone who
>>>> is
>>>> not bit-peeping.  It's also 4/3, which I know you hate anyway.  The 
>>>> wing
>>>> detail is there, and the rest doesn't need to be sharp.
>>>>
>>>> Have a good evening!
>>>>
>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 4:18 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Yellow Butterfly Replacement
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Too small to really know what we're looking at;
>>>>> Clicking on a pic to make it bigger is such an internet convention and
>>>>> expectation. At the size its at it looks soft.
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------
>>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>>> Photography
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>>>> mark at rabinergroup.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net>
>>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:27:27 -0500
>>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Olympus Camera Discussion <olympus at thomasclausen.net>
>>>>>> Subject: [Leica] IMG: Yellow Butterfly Replacement
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was not satisfied with the image I posted yesterday, so I tried 
>>>>>> again
>>>>>> today,
>>>>>> using a longer lens.  I have replaced the original image with one 
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> today's
>>>>>> shoot.  E-1 with 200/4 Takumar + 2X extender, using an old Star-D
>>>>>> tripod
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> a monopod.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Yellow+Butterfly.jpg.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Comments and critiques welcomed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>>>>
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