Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/10/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I'm surprised in the amount of 4/3 cameras that I see in the hands of the average consumer. S.d. On Oct 8, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Richard Taylor wrote: > I was also surprised at now many people were sporting Nikons and > Canons, sometimes in addition to Leicas, sometimes not. There were > quite a few micro-4/3rds cameras, too. > > What ever was in use, there were lots of pictures taken this year. > > Regards, > > Dick > > > > On Oct 07, 2010, at 1:57 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > >> I participated in an LHSA event in Solms/Wetzlar back in 1998 or 99 >> or 2000 and was struck by (1) the number of Leicas hanging from >> people's necks and shoulders, (2) the low frequency of same Leicas >> being lifted to the eye in order to take a picture. >> >> Cheers, >> Nathan >> >> Nathan Wajsman >> Alicante, Spain >> http://www.frozenlight.eu >> http://www.greatpix.eu >> http://www.nathanfoto.com >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >> >> YNWA >> >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 7, 2010, at 12:34 AM, Richard Taylor wrote: >> >>> Yeah, well, at 70 I was just a bit over the median age I think. >>> Lotsa people took lotsa pictures. I'm just starting to go through >>> them, and my shots from my week in Tokyo before the meeting, now. >>> I'll try to post some soon. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Dick >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 06, 2010, at 6:00 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: >>> >>>> Getting too old for an LHSA event? No way, Dick! >>>> Did anyone in the party actually take any pictures? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Nathan >>>> >>>> Nathan Wajsman >>>> Alicante, Spain >>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu >>>> http://www.greatpix.eu >>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com >>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >>>> >>>> YNWA >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 6, 2010, at 3:32 PM, Richard Taylor wrote: >>>> >>>>> Stefan Daniel was asked about the "R Solution" at the LHSA >>>>> meeting and he replied with what I felt was considerable regret >>>>> that it was economically unfeasible given the current >>>>> competition in the DSLR market. But, ... >>>>> >>>>> He went on to talk about the development of a *full-frame* >>>>> camera with an EVF that would be primarily directed at M users >>>>> but that would also take R lenses with an adapter. They are >>>>> also considering development of a line of autofocus lenses for >>>>> this camera. Let's hope they don't snatch defeat from the jaws >>>>> of victory on this one like they did with the X-1. >>>>> >>>>> Another tidbit: Leica, at least for its M lenses, remains >>>>> committed to the development of lenses that are fully corrected >>>>> optically - no firmware corrections, please. >>>>> >>>>> By far the most interesting thing at Photokina was the new Fuji >>>>> X100 that Fuji was showing in mockup only but with an operating >>>>> viewfinder. The optical finder had projected frame lines and >>>>> minimal info (shutter speed, f-stop and ISO) so it was nicely >>>>> uncluttered. A flick of a switch converts the finder to an EVF. >>>>> It uses an APS-C sensor and I saw nothing to make me think the >>>>> frame lines were parallax corrected. Cool, nevertheless! It's >>>>> about the size of a GF-1. It looks like an interesting camera >>>>> and I look forward to seeing some images from it. >>>>> >>>>> The Wetzlar meeting was a lot of fun, but having signed up for >>>>> *all* the tours I ended the week walked out and considerably >>>>> tired. Maybe I'm just getting too old for this kind of >>>>> stuff. :-) >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Dick >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 06, 2010, at 5:35 AM, Richard Man wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ah, so it's not even "may be we will look at it in 2 years, but >>>>>> NEVER" :-( >>>>>> >>>>>> (well not that I use the R systems, but seeing stuff from Doug >>>>>> and George, >>>>>> clearly there is something there there) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 2:15 AM, Douglas Sharp <douglas.sharp at >>>>>> gmx.de >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I quote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> R-SYSTEM >>>>>>> A digital solution in the form of a R10 was not presentable. >>>>>>> Such an >>>>>>> investment would have been to great for Leica. The development >>>>>>> of the >>>>>>> S-System cost ?30m. A similar effort for a digital R was not >>>>>>> fundable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not presentable (nicht darstellbar) should be "not feasible" - >>>>>>> it's an >>>>>>> expression often used by engineers - so what was actually >>>>>>> meant above was >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "we took a look at the idea and shelved it 'cos we couldn't >>>>>>> afford it in a >>>>>>> month of Sundays, and it wouldn't be profitable even if we >>>>>>> could" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> Douglas >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 06.10.2010 06:00, Geoff Hopkinson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Absolutely understandable disappointment for R lens owners of >>>>>>>> course. >>>>>>>> However the expectaiton for a 'solution' this Photokina came >>>>>>>> entirely from >>>>>>>> speculation and desire rather than specific promise. All >>>>>>>> largely >>>>>>>> unremarked >>>>>>>> here but there has been an awful lot of anguish and emotional >>>>>>>> outpouring, >>>>>>>> dummy spitting, rants and stompimg out of the room in the >>>>>>>> (dedicated) L >>>>>>>> Camera Forum. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Stefan Daniel told us in mid 2009 that they were working on >>>>>>>> the 'suitable >>>>>>>> solution' but not to expect it before this Photokina etc. >>>>>>>> That of course >>>>>>>> has now slipped further but at least they have provided some >>>>>>>> slightly more >>>>>>>> specific information on the possible form that it may take >>>>>>>> (in general >>>>>>>> terms). I think that Leica Camera have learnt a lesson there >>>>>>>> and are less >>>>>>>> likely to provide any specific models and developments that >>>>>>>> are only >>>>>>>> planned >>>>>>>> or not. >>>>>>>> According to an attendee at the LHSA meeting in Wtezlar Leica >>>>>>>> management >>>>>>>> have now excluded the possible solution prior to photokina >>>>>>>> 2012. >>>>>>>> Personally I am still stunned tht the S2 development costs >>>>>>>> were some 30 >>>>>>>> million EURO and I note their comment that other medium >>>>>>>> format camera >>>>>>>> manufacturers occupied something like 50% less floor space at >>>>>>>> pk. Not a >>>>>>>> reassuring indicator for the genre, if unsurprising. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> Geoff >>>>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 6 October 2010 13:33, Jayanand >>>>>>>> Govindaraj<jayanand at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Looks like they are working overtime to 'repair their >>>>>>>> finances' for the >>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>> being. Can't blame them for that, it is a pragmatic business >>>>>>>>> decision. >>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>> Jayanand >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:08 AM, Geoff Hopkinson<hopsternew at >>>>>>>>> gmail.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Andy Barton, a MOD on the L Camera Forum has posted a >>>>>>>>>> summary of >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> responses >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> from Leica Camera Executives to a number of questions on >>>>>>>>>> Leica products >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> policy. >>>>>>>>>> You can read it here, even if not a meber of that forum >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/customer-forum/144758-leica-luf-%40-pkina-english.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>> Geoff >>>>>>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>> information >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> // richard <http://www.imagecraft.com/> >>>>>> // icc blog: <http://imagecraft.wordpress.com> >>>>>> // photo blog: <http://www.5pmlight.com> >>>>>> [ For technical support on ImageCraft products, please include >>>>>> all previous >>>>>> replies in your msgs. ] >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>> information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information