Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/10/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I miss the LHSA meetings the ones with the Nikon Coolpix around they're necks are the ones who have your lens you have on your camera at home but 22 of them with consecutive serial numbers and they're never going to mention that to you unless you get them really loaded. So yes they do have your lens and know all about it. Like what the guy had for breakfast the morning he invented it. So you could in a way say they're not into Leica. But in a way they're much more into it than you are. But it seems to be shifting to more and more guys using than collecting. -------------------- Mark William Rabiner Photography http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ mark at rabinergroup.com > From: "Richard S. Taylor" <r.s.taylor at comcast.net> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 19:36:02 -0400 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Daniel's Comments on a Leica EVIL Camera at LHSA > Wetzlar > > I was also surprised at now many people were sporting Nikons and Canons, > sometimes in addition to Leicas, sometimes not. There were quite a few > micro-4/3rds cameras, too. > > What ever was in use, there were lots of pictures taken this year. > > Regards, > > Dick > > > > On Oct 07, 2010, at 1:57 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > >> I participated in an LHSA event in Solms/Wetzlar back in 1998 or 99 or >> 2000 >> and was struck by (1) the number of Leicas hanging from people's necks and >> shoulders, (2) the low frequency of same Leicas being lifted to the eye in >> order to take a picture. >> >> Cheers, >> Nathan >> >> Nathan Wajsman >> Alicante, Spain >> http://www.frozenlight.eu >> http://www.greatpix.eu >> http://www.nathanfoto.com >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >> >> YNWA >> >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 7, 2010, at 12:34 AM, Richard Taylor wrote: >> >>> Yeah, well, at 70 I was just a bit over the median age I think. Lotsa >>> people took lotsa pictures. I'm just starting to go through them, and my >>> shots from my week in Tokyo before the meeting, now. I'll try to post >>> some >>> soon. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Dick >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 06, 2010, at 6:00 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: >>> >>>> Getting too old for an LHSA event? No way, Dick! >>>> Did anyone in the party actually take any pictures? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Nathan >>>> >>>> Nathan Wajsman >>>> Alicante, Spain >>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu >>>> http://www.greatpix.eu >>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com >>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >>>> >>>> YNWA >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 6, 2010, at 3:32 PM, Richard Taylor wrote: >>>> >>>>> Stefan Daniel was asked about the "R Solution" at the LHSA meeting and >>>>> he >>>>> replied with what I felt was considerable regret that it was >>>>> economically >>>>> unfeasible given the current competition in the DSLR market. But, ... >>>>> >>>>> He went on to talk about the development of a *full-frame* camera with >>>>> an >>>>> EVF that would be primarily directed at M users but that would also >>>>> take R >>>>> lenses with an adapter. They are also considering development of a >>>>> line >>>>> of autofocus lenses for this camera. Let's hope they don't snatch >>>>> defeat >>>>> from the jaws of victory on this one like they did with the X-1. >>>>> >>>>> Another tidbit: Leica, at least for its M lenses, remains committed to >>>>> the development of lenses that are fully corrected optically - no >>>>> firmware >>>>> corrections, please. >>>>> >>>>> By far the most interesting thing at Photokina was the new Fuji X100 >>>>> that >>>>> Fuji was showing in mockup only but with an operating viewfinder. The >>>>> optical finder had projected frame lines and minimal info (shutter >>>>> speed, >>>>> f-stop and ISO) so it was nicely uncluttered. A flick of a switch >>>>> converts >>>>> the finder to an EVF. It uses an APS-C sensor and I saw nothing to >>>>> make >>>>> me think the frame lines were parallax corrected. Cool, nevertheless! >>>>> It's about the size of a GF-1. It looks like an interesting camera >>>>> and I >>>>> look forward to seeing some images from it. >>>>> >>>>> The Wetzlar meeting was a lot of fun, but having signed up for *all* >>>>> the >>>>> tours I ended the week walked out and considerably tired. Maybe I'm >>>>> just >>>>> getting too old for this kind of stuff. :-) >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Dick >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 06, 2010, at 5:35 AM, Richard Man wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ah, so it's not even "may be we will look at it in 2 years, but NEVER" >>>>>> :-( >>>>>> >>>>>> (well not that I use the R systems, but seeing stuff from Doug and >>>>>> George, >>>>>> clearly there is something there there) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 2:15 AM, Douglas Sharp <douglas.sharp at >>>>>> gmx.de> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I quote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> R-SYSTEM >>>>>>> A digital solution in the form of a R10 was not presentable. Such an >>>>>>> investment would have been to great for Leica. The development of the >>>>>>> S-System cost ?30m. A similar effort for a digital R was not >>>>>>> fundable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not presentable (nicht darstellbar) should be "not feasible" - it's >>>>>>> an >>>>>>> expression often used by engineers - so what was actually meant above >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "we took a look at the idea and shelved it 'cos we couldn't afford >>>>>>> it in >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> month of Sundays, and it wouldn't be profitable even if we could" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> Douglas >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 06.10.2010 06:00, Geoff Hopkinson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Absolutely understandable disappointment for R lens owners of >>>>>>>> course. >>>>>>>> However the expectaiton for a 'solution' this Photokina came >>>>>>>> entirely >>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>> speculation and desire rather than specific promise. All largely >>>>>>>> unremarked >>>>>>>> here but there has been an awful lot of anguish and emotional >>>>>>>> outpouring, >>>>>>>> dummy spitting, rants and stompimg out of the room in the >>>>>>>> (dedicated) L >>>>>>>> Camera Forum. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Stefan Daniel told us in mid 2009 that they were working on the >>>>>>>> 'suitable >>>>>>>> solution' but not to expect it before this Photokina etc. That of >>>>>>>> course >>>>>>>> has now slipped further but at least they have provided some >>>>>>>> slightly >>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>> specific information on the possible form that it may take (in >>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>> terms). I think that Leica Camera have learnt a lesson there and are >>>>>>>> less >>>>>>>> likely to provide any specific models and developments that are only >>>>>>>> planned >>>>>>>> or not. >>>>>>>> According to an attendee at the LHSA meeting in Wtezlar Leica >>>>>>>> management >>>>>>>> have now excluded the possible solution prior to photokina 2012. >>>>>>>> Personally I am still stunned tht the S2 development costs were >>>>>>>> some 30 >>>>>>>> million EURO and I note their comment that other medium format >>>>>>>> camera >>>>>>>> manufacturers occupied something like 50% less floor space at pk. >>>>>>>> Not a >>>>>>>> reassuring indicator for the genre, if unsurprising. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> Geoff >>>>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 6 October 2010 13:33, Jayanand Govindaraj<jayanand at gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Looks like they are working overtime to 'repair their finances' for >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>> being. Can't blame them for that, it is a pragmatic business >>>>>>>>> decision. >>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>> Jayanand >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:08 AM, Geoff Hopkinson<hopsternew at >>>>>>>>> gmail.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Andy Barton, a MOD on the L Camera Forum has posted a summary of >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> responses >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> from Leica Camera Executives to a number of questions on Leica >>>>>>>>>> products >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> policy. >>>>>>>>>> You can read it here, even if not a meber of that forum >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/customer-forum/144758-leica- >>>>>>>>> luf-%40-pkina-english.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>> Geoff >>>>>>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> // richard <http://www.imagecraft.com/> >>>>>> // icc blog: <http://imagecraft.wordpress.com> >>>>>> // photo blog: <http://www.5pmlight.com> >>>>>> [ For technical support on ImageCraft products, please include all >>>>>> previous >>>>>> replies in your msgs. ] >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information