Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/09/04

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Subject: [Leica] WTB: IR/UV filters
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 07:48:33 +1000
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Rei I recall the last filter kerfuffle as well.
I have lens hoods fitted routinely also, partly for their original purpose
and partly for the mechanical protection that they offer too.
On the Summilux 50 ASPH that I use a lot, there is a small collapsible hood
permanently attached. Mine sometimes unlocks in handling. I won't repeat the
rest ;-)

I'm actually looking for a couple of those heliopan UV-MRC slim filters, if
you wanted to talk to me off list on that.

Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman


On 5 September 2010 01:24, Rei Shinozuka <shino at panix.com> wrote:

>  it feels like years since the last filter kerfuffle.
>
> as for myself, in 2007 i swapped heliopan UV-MRC Slims for leica UV-IRs and
> in 2009 i switched back.
>
> -rei
>
>
>
> On 09/04/2010 02:52 AM, Henning Wulff wrote:
>
>> At 9:45 AM +1000 9/4/10, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
>>
>> Why do you think that the filters would likely shatter into a million
>>> ultra
>>> sharp pieces? Good ones at least are laminated materials.
>>>
>>>
>> At present only polarizers are still sometimes laminated; most others are
>> dyed in the mass. The latter would shatter.
>>
>> In earlier times coloured filters were laminated because the dyes could be
>> controlled better in gel form than as dyes added to molten glass. They 
>> were
>> abandoned when dyed in the mass became possible because the gels tended to
>> fade relatively quickly, and they necessitated thicker filters which 
>> caused
>> a lot of plano-parallelism problems. I once (in the 70's) checked about 50
>> filters; over 75% of the laminated gel types had surfaces that weren't
>> perfectly parallel which would cause serious problems with some lenses. 
>> The
>> gels also didn't really provide any structural strength; not like the 
>> vinyl
>> in laminated safety glass.
>>
>> As far as the UV filter argument goes, the filter ring ding vs. lens rim
>> ding I can understand, but my lens shades do an even better job and they
>> shade besides. Also, if you shatter the filter after whacking the lens
>> against something, it does not necessarily follow that the front element
>> would have been damaged if the filter had not been there. Maybe yes, maybe
>> no.
>>
>> As you might guess from the above, I use filters when there is a good
>> reason, but leave it off otherwise. I did some tests once which showed 
>> that
>> under some circumstances the images gets slightly degraded when a filter 
>> is
>> used. Not often, but still...
>>
>> If you use a filter, make sure the coatings are good. It doesn't have to
>> be the most expensive one.
>>
>>
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In reply to: Message from philippe.amard at sfr.fr (philippe.amard) ([Leica] WTB: IR/UV filters)
Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] WTB: IR/UV filters)
Message from hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] WTB: IR/UV filters)
Message from shino at panix.com (Rei Shinozuka) ([Leica] WTB: IR/UV filters)