Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/09/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Henning I'm with you on all your arguments that I can see laid out below. especially a lens shade being far better projection than a filter and a filter being used only for good purpose. I feel "every day protection" (prophylactic?) not being one of them. It was my impression that the filters coming out of the Tiffin company had a long and continued commitment to the lamination process. They were proud of NASA being one of their returning clients. I avoid Tiffin only as a last result because the lamination process struck me as inferior to dyed glass. It seemed like a gross compromise. Sticking what appears to be a gel in between two filters. 6 surfaces total. But I'm guessing they are still doing it with all not just their polarizers. Not taking seriously the example of the top people in a profession is just not plain odd. But idiosyncratically arrogant. -------------------- Mark William Rabiner Photography mark at rabinergroup.com > From: "Henning J. Wulff" <henningw at archiphoto.com> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 23:52:53 -0700 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] WTB: IR/UV filters > > At 9:45 AM +1000 9/4/10, Geoff Hopkinson wrote: > >> Why do you think that the filters would likely shatter into a million >> ultra >> sharp pieces? Good ones at least are laminated materials. >> > > At present only polarizers are still sometimes laminated; most others > are dyed in the mass. The latter would shatter. > > In earlier times coloured filters were laminated because the dyes > could be controlled better in gel form than as dyes added to molten > glass. They were abandoned when dyed in the mass became possible > because the gels tended to fade relatively quickly, and they > necessitated thicker filters which caused a lot of plano-parallelism > problems. I once (in the 70's) checked about 50 filters; over 75% of > the laminated gel types had surfaces that weren't perfectly parallel > which would cause serious problems with some lenses. The gels also > didn't really provide any structural strength; not like the vinyl in > laminated safety glass. > > As far as the UV filter argument goes, the filter ring ding vs. lens > rim ding I can understand, but my lens shades do an even better job > and they shade besides. Also, if you shatter the filter after > whacking the lens against something, it does not necessarily follow > that the front element would have been damaged if the filter had not > been there. Maybe yes, maybe no. > > As you might guess from the above, I use filters when there is a good > reason, but leave it off otherwise. I did some tests once which > showed that under some circumstances the images gets slightly > degraded when a filter is used. Not often, but still... > > If you use a filter, make sure the coatings are good. It doesn't have > to be the most expensive one. > > -- > > * Henning J. Wulff > /|\ Wulff Photography & Design > /###\ mailto:henningw at archiphoto.com > |[ ]| http://www.archiphoto.com > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information