Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/08/07

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Subject: [Leica] Compact Cameras
From: shino at panix.com (Rei Shinozuka)
Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2010 13:21:23 -0400
References: <C8824F40.1792%mark@rabinergroup.com> <89F4F95C-9021-4B6E-9289-653E88896E1E@frozenlight.eu>

Thanks for the reference, I haven't read Puts in a while.  The Puts X1 
review is available here:

http://www.imx.nl/photo/leica/camera/page172/x1.html

While Puts has concerns about the X1 operating characteristics, he is 
pretty effusive about its final image quality:

"Whatever the fine points, the X1 must be given very high marks for 
delivering images on the same level as the M9. Leica users who reflect 
on buying the X1 as an easy to use compact camera will get Leica like 
imagery."

"The 24mm lens in the X1 is remarkably free from ghosting and veiling 
glare. In fact again it is often better than the M lenses on their bodies."

On the downside: "The quality of the imagery drops when you use higher 
ISO values...  I would think that ISO 800 is the practical limit, but 
you can tweak the results at higher ISO values with appropriate 
processing. "

I'd love to try an X1 for a spin.

-rei


On 08/07/2010 01:24 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
> Except that every review I have read of the X1 states that the camera is 
> so slow that it borders on useless for street photography. For example, 
> quoting from Erwin's review:
>
> "In standard operational mode (AF with the display active) the shutter 
> release delay is quite long and the release moment not well defined." and 
> a few lines down, after discussing some ways in which the camera can be 
> made faster, still:
>
> "It is no match for the instant response of the M-series (film loading and 
> sensor based), and a certain expertise in anticipation is most welcome to 
> get exactly the shot you want.
> The more features you activate, the slower the response of the camera 
> becomes."
>
> Nathan
>
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
> http://www.frozenlight.eu
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>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 7, 2010, at 5:46 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>
>    
>> A fixed mount in the sense that the lens does not come off I'm sure you
>> mean.
>> This compact fixed mount camera configuration though comes from a worthy
>> line of in the past of cameras.
>> The Contax T
>> Rollei 35
>> Leica CM
>> Konica Hexar AF
>> Olympus XA
>> Minox GT
>>
>> HCB used one the last time he did some photography.
>>
>> At the bottom of the camera bags or in the pocket of many a photographer 
>> in
>> the 80's and 90's.
>>
>> Small camera. Big pictures.
>>
>>
>> Rabs
>>
>> --------------------
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photography
>> mark at rabinergroup.com
>>
>>
>>      
>>> From: Jim Nichols<jhnichols at lighttube.net>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group<lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 22:18:17 -0500
>>> To: Leica Users Group<lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Compact Cameras
>>>
>>> If it truly had a screw mount, it might be worth the money.  As I 
>>> recall, it
>>> is all about fixed mount with automation.
>>>
>>> Jim Nichols
>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>        
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