Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/05/11
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Thanks to all of you who has send his kind comments, is despite that's a nice image I prefer keep my original picture, I agree the Vince's (very kind opinion), as well as George and Marc. Maybe we can be a little confused seeing a nice se?orita (cropped) but this not imply that even she's very nice that it is a better picture (for me). Finally when we photograph something we want show and communicate something, what I want communicate was this elegant se?orita on the envinronment as I have saw she, not just a portrait as Vince says for a magazine, I agree George's opinion too that these arte two different pictures, every one showing or communicating something different, on this case I prefer my first version, probably is a question of preferences of each one as "author" of the image. thanks again to all who has expressed their opinions Saludos cordiales Lluis El 11/05/2010, a las 21:37, Vince Passaro escribi?: > OK George, I can go with that. One (i.e., me) rebelled at the idea of > rejecting the first in favor of the second. But peaceful co- > existence is > what we should all aim for.... > > 2010/5/11 George Lottermoser <imagist3 at mac.com> > >> I agree with Vince's basic premise. >> >> Further I also see the cropped and original versions >> as entirely different photographs. >> They communicate quite different messages; >> so serve different purposes. >> >> The cropped version becomes a candid street portrait; >> and quite a beautiful one. The postcards serve it well. >> I do believe it is every bit as "real" a photograph >> as the much more complex "narrative" original version. >> >> Regards, >> George Lottermoser >> george at imagist.com >> http://www.imagist.com >> http://www.imagist.com/blog >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist >> >> >> On May 10, 2010, at 10:41 PM, Vince Passaro wrote: >> >> Lluis: >>> >>> the original version had a narrative, a story, to be seen in it. The >>> cropped >>> version has a babe. The first is more intelligent and more >>> interesting as >>> a >>> photograph. She is standing, waiting to get something at the >>> newsstand. >>> She >>> has detected the camera (? -- that's how it appears) and she has >>> turned to >>> look with all the calm and all the composure and all the abiding >>> desire to >>> photographed that such a beautiful woman can be relied on to have >>> in her >>> possession. Thus, in this pose, in these circumstances, she is >>> even more >>> beautiful, by *reacting *as a beautiful woman would react. She has >>> been >>> engaged -- always an electrifying moment with a woman of her >>> caliber. >>> >>> The cropped version, pfff. >>> >>> Cropping is good for animal pictures, and flowers; but humans >>> exist in a >>> more insistent reality, an actual set of circumstances. When >>> Avedon put >>> them >>> before a white drop he made an Avedon out of them but those are >>> still >>> circumstances, still a story: the photographer's story. The crop >>> of this >>> has >>> none of that integrity. And insolubly the back of the man's jacket >>> intrudes. >>> You can't move the line because you'd have to center her, >>> boringly, and >>> include part of the stroller behind her. >>> >>> All in all, go with the original, which is a real photograph. The >>> other is >>> meant for a stock agency or a calendar or a weekly newsmagazine >>> and you >>> are >>> a way better photographer than that. >>> >>> Vince >>> >>> >>> >>> 2010/5/10 Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> >>> >>> Lluis, >>>> >>>> The cropped image is very nice. I feel it is a stronger image than >>>> before. >>>> >>>> Jim Nichols >>>> Tullahoma, TN USA >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lluis Ripoll Querol" < >>>> lluisripollquerol at gmail.com> >>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 7:02 PM >>>> Subject: [Leica] Se?orita (cropped) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Following Peter and oliver suggestions, here is the image cropped. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cropped: >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2010040314cr.jpg.html >>>>> >>>>> or the first version >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2010040314.jpg.html >>>>> >>>>> What do you think?... thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Saludos cordiales >>>>> Lluis >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/ >>>>> http://photo.net/photos/lluisripoll >>>>> Blog: >>>>> http://lluisripollphotography.wordpress.com/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information