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Subject: [Leica] Wartime experiences
From: s.dimitrov at charter.net (slobodan Dimitrov)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 16:11:47 -0700
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Well, it usually heads in that direction anyway.
What are you're looking for anyway?
S.d.


On Apr 2, 2010, at 3:56 PM, A. Lal wrote:

> Well, since this topic arose here it would be interesting to see the 
> response here too. However, if you prefer the forum that is fine with me.
> 
> See you there.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "slobodan Dimitrov" <s.dimitrov at 
> charter.net>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 6:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Wartime experiences
> 
> 
>> Sure, though out of deference to the Salon Keeper, it should be done in 
>> the Forum.
>> S.d.
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 2, 2010, at 3:22 PM, A. Lal wrote:
>> 
>>> Questions below
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "slobodan Dimitrov" <s.dimitrov at 
>>> charter.net>
>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 10:55 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Wartime experiences
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I stand on the opposite side of this issue, and not too far from the 
>>>> Sony radio reaction, when it comes to Germany.
>>>> I still see the focus on individuals and organizations as a form of 
>>>> alibi.
>>>> Sometime ago, I called attention to the role of Central European 
>>>> entities to some of the current adventurism >and bogus rehabilitations.
>>> 
>>> Slobodan, would you mind elaboration on these points for those of us not 
>>> familiar with "focus on individuals and organizations as a form of 
>>> alibi" and "current adventurism and bogus rehabilitations."?
>>> 
>>>> I was publicly attacked by a semi official arm of the German government 
>>>> as a hateful person based on my >ethnicity.
>>>> Mind you, I never identified myself as anything other than an American 
>>>> veteran. After I did some
>>>> cursory research, I found out that the writer was from the German 
>>>> embassy in Mexico CIty, one of their >largest missions in the world.
>>>> You figure out why!
>>> 
>>> Sorry to say I am clueless. Details please.
>>> 
>>>> I went to the Jewish Federation, here in LA, for advice
>>> >on a response. They got a chuckle out of it, as did I, and told me it 
>>> >>would be pointless to get into a spitting >contest with them. So I 
>>> >left >enough alone. But it was a reminder that the Balkan Spiel in 
>>> >still in >play at >Berlin, well in to the late 20th century, and into 
>>> >this one.
>>>> S.d.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 1, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> This hits very close to home. My father lost most of his extended 
>>>>> family during the Holocaust and spent the years 1943-45 killing as 
>>>>> many German soldiers as possible. His war ended on VE-Day in Bernau, 
>>>>> 35 km from Berlin.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yet, he never advocated collective guilt. His first wife was German. 
>>>>> We visited Germany frequently during my childhood and adolescence, and 
>>>>> today I am very comfortable there. The Germany of today has nothing to 
>>>>> do with the Germany of the 1930s.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you want to pick on a country, pick on Japan whose leaders still 
>>>>> feel obliged to make annual visits to a shrine which commemorates war 
>>>>> criminals.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nathan
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 1, 2010, at 5:49 PM, Lawrence Zeitlin wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Frank writes:
>>>>>> "My cousin bought a little Sony portable radio in the 60s with the 
>>>>>> money
>>>>>> earned on his paper round. My uncle smashed it to tiny pieces using 
>>>>>> his
>>>>>> hammer, and gave him the money..."
>>>>>> - - - - -
>>>>>> I am a Korean War vet and I absolutely refuse to buy anything made in 
>>>>>> North
>>>>>> Korea. Not that I have had much opportunity to buy North Korean 
>>>>>> goods. South
>>>>>> Korea is OK. My parents, who lost relatives in the holocaust were 
>>>>>> appalled
>>>>>> that I bought a German made Leica until I told them about the Leitz 
>>>>>> "Freedom
>>>>>> Train." However I still feel uneasy about visiting Germany. Emotional 
>>>>>> scars
>>>>>> last a long time.
>>>>>> Larry Z
>>>>>> 
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