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Subject: [Leica] R lens option for DSLR
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:13:03 -0700
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On Mar 23, 2010, at 10:49 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:

> Thank you for accurately describing my feelings about Rabs's comments, 
> Steve. "Mental masturbation" is very accurate, especially given that he 
> does not own any of the cameras he feels so damn competent to comment on. 
> He also cannot read, since the camera I left at home was an M8 (which he 
> also hates despite never having had one) and not an M9.
> 
> Besides, here is my little piece of heresy: the 1.7/20mm pancake is so 
> good that it is worth buying the GF-1 just for that.


yes I agree, and I have one...Steve
> 
> Cheers,
> Nathan
> 
> Nathan Wajsman
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> On Mar 24, 2010, at 3:52 AM, Steve Barbour wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Mar 23, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>> 
>>>> Nathan -
>>>> 
>>>> I can understand your reasoning, but for 99.9% of the photographers I 
>>>> know,
>>>> the M9 with its lenses is a light-weight system!  Try carrying around 
>>>> any of
>>>> the Nikon or Canon DSLR pro cameras with their lenses!  It's weird to 
>>>> think
>>>> of the Leica M as being the heavy choice!  I can't imagine liking the
>>>> viewfinder on the GF-1.
>>>> 
>>>> Tina
>>>> 
>>> You can lead a horse to water but you cant make him/her drink.
>>> Like most people I'd commit three felonies and a misdemeanor to be in a
>>> place like London for a week shooting my Leica M9 with my Leica glass.
>>> I don't know what you can say to the mindset of sombody who buys an M9 
>>> for
>>> seven grand and then leaves it at home to go to London and shoot with
>>> plastic gadget camera that people who don't have seven grand get to 
>>> smooth
>>> things over with and not very well.
>>> Its just and astounding move which kind of leaves you with your mouth
>>> hanging open.
>>> Weight : 585 grams vs. 315  grams that's a real reason to not drag around
>>> that awkward heavy Leica M9  a camera which is way smaller than your
>>> standard serious photographic choice; a 5D or a D3 or D700 which way 
>>> around
>>> 1000 grams. Twice an M9.
>>> 
>>> At the bottom of your camrea bag is where you find a plastic camera like
>>> that for backup. Its a common way of working. You pull it out when
>>> "photographers" are not wanted but everybody is taking pictures.
>>> The Lumix is $8,349 cheaper than the Leica!!
>>> You'd be saving money if you hadn't already bought the Leica.
>>> That just makes using a plastic 4/3's camera in such an amazing 
>>> photographic
>>> opportunity... AMAZING!
>> 
>> hi Rabs...
>> 
>> While all that may be true, it's simply mental masturbation. You need to 
>> buy an M9 or a Lumix, or both, and use them. This will substitute 
>> adequately for your need to comment on every one else's practices.
>> 
>> makes sense doesn't it?
>> 
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>> 
>> 
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In reply to: Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] R lens option for DSLR)
Message from steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour) ([Leica] R lens option for DSLR)
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