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Subject: [Leica] Beware HCB Wannabes
From: passaro.vince at gmail.com (Vince Passaro)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:11:13 -0400
References: <43d2b9bb1003180905j54f232f3ufe932baf6a42f069@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.5.6.2.20100318125223.032aa818@med.cornell.edu> <19b6d42d1003181754jc7c3471xa14c2972237bdbcc@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.5.6.2.20100319112306.0352fe40@med.cornell.edu> <a3f189161003190838r1dde8d2dmf43b45f79721e4c3@mail.gmail.com> <CD194DFC-E59C-4477-AE24-2DE577A7361A@mac.com>

George, quite right and proved by the laws of physics no less (you and
camera alter the scene; this is the uncertainty principle at work, no?).

And the one on the pole does alter the scene as well, even after a year and
even after everyone's seemingly forgotten it. It makes them behave, no
matter whether anyone is watching or not. Look up on the web if you haven't
encountered it already Foucault's description of the Panopticon.

Remember when we were kids and the movies that wanted to make us fear
Soviet-style tyranny would cut to a camera mounted up high on a wall and the
music would go da-dah, da-dah, da-dah, because the very image of a camera
high up on the wall was (suposed to be) a terrifying one. For me it still
is. Only now it ain't the Soviets mounting them.

V

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:20 PM, George Lottermoser <imagist3 at 
mac.com>wrote:

> Depends entirely on what the photographer intends to
> portray/say/express/create.
>
> "be a fly on the wall and attempt to document reality"
> represents only one intention and approach.
>
> "get to know your subject and attempt to capture intimate portraits"
> another intention and approach
>
> and the list goes on - hopefully without end
>
> no matter how you bring the camera into the scene
> your and your camera's presence will alter the scene
> (unless you're a surveillance camera on a pole for a year;
> in which case most people will have - unfortunately - forgotten your
> presence)
>
> Regards,
> George Lottermoser
> george at imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com/blog
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>
>
> On Mar 19, 2010, at 10:38 AM, Sonny Carter wrote:
>
>  Vince said
>>
>>  The more they feel discomfort from you the better the
>>
>>  chance you're doing something right.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>  But if you are affecting the shot by your behavior, isn't that just  the
>> same as altering it in Photoshop?
>>
>> Seems to me you are no longer showing, but now intruding.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sonny
>> http://www.sonc.com
>> http://sonc.stumbleupon.com/
>> Natchitoches, Louisiana
>> (+31.754164,-093.099080)
>>
>> USA
>>
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Replies: Reply from imagist3 at mac.com (George Lottermoser) ([Leica] Beware HCB Wannabes)
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