Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/03/11
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Geoff, it's a common joke about Microsoft about giving details information but not answering the question. This is just a bad takeoff from Bob's post that "You didn't answer my question." Don't worry about it. Somewhat related: I am running into LR/Photoshop running out of RAM. I have 6 GB but XP only uses 4GB. I am setting up another machine. When that's done, I will see if it helps to install Win7/64bits on this machine. It's a pain to have to close down apps. On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com>wrote: > Eh? This is an Adobe bug, nothing to do with your OS. > Installing a 64 bit OS and CS4 and LR2 64 bit does has implications though > (locations for profiles for one, compatibility for aftermarket plug-ins for > another). > > Stan, the latest version of the Camera Raw plug-in that will work with CS2 > is 3.7. > The DNG format is supported all the way back to CS since Adobe invented it > of course. Camera Raw 2.4 and later supports M8 and M9 DNGs (and other DNG > native cameras). > Naturally there were no specific profiles for the M9 before September last > year, but the files will open fine in versions prior to the introduction of > M9 specific profiles. It is the specific profile support that is one of the > benefits of the later versions (and my reason to suggest 5.4 and later). > > Cheers > Geoff > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > > > On 12 March 2010 07:45, Richard Man <richard at imagecraft.com> wrote: > > > Geoff must be working for Microsoft. > > > > :-P > > > > Since the symptom of the problem is that the program crashes, it's easy > > enough to work that way. If it crashes, then you have a problem :-) > > > > (Yes I work in software :-) ) > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Bob Adler <rgacpa at yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > You didn't answer the question... > > > :-p > > > Bob Adler > > > Palo Alto, CA > > > http://www.rgaphoto.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> > > > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > > > Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 12:55:24 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Leica] M9 DNGs and Adobe > > > > > > Yes the bug is only in LR 2.6 and ACR 5.6. Although M9 users are a very > > > small group compared to say Canon or Nikon Adobe customers, enough > people > > > reported the problem so that the fix is underway. The Adobe user forums > > > contain the discussions (You can join free). The problem is known and > > > acknowledged by Adobe there. Some of their senior people participate in > > > those forums, which is to their credit as a company. They apologised > and > > > explained and have promised a further fix. > > > > > > Using the LR2.6 Release Candidate (the old beta) did work when they > > > initially made it available again since it did not have the later > > > alterations to improve M9 rendition. Then they made the LR2.6.1 version > > > available for M9 users. Non-M9 people should not install it because of > > the > > > version mismatch complication. If you are using LR2.5 you should use at > > > least 5.4 for best compatibility. Don't forget the excellent LR3 beta. > > > > > > Ed, the bug is apparently triggered by particular tonal value > > combinations > > > (RGB numbers)! which is why you only see it sometimes. The bug was > always > > > there in Camera Raw 5.6 but not reported by users at the same time. I > > guess > > > it was because M9 users got the free download of LR and maybe those > were > > > new > > > Adobe customers? > > > > > > Sorry about more acronyms, uncle Rabs, however I hope that they are > clear > > > within the context. > > > > > > Cheers > > > Geoff > > > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > > > > > > > > > On 12 March 2010 01:19, Bob Adler <rgacpa at yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I noticed this issue when you had me upgrade LR to 2.6.1 Geoff. :-) > > > > I still use LR Camera Raw, but when going to edit in CS4, I "Let > > > Lightroom > > > > Do Rendering". Any problem with this approach? > > > > Best, > > > > Bob > > > > Bob Adler > > > > Palo Alto, CA > > > > http://www.rgaphoto.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> > > > > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > > > > Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 5:38:58 AM > > > > Subject: [Leica] M9 DNGs and Adobe > > > > > > > > For anyone interested: > > > > M9 users found that some DNG files caused crashes in Photoshop CS4 > and > > > > Lightroom 2.6 (a particular RGB number combination). Adobe found a > bug > > > > introduced when late changes were made to the Raw processing engine > to > > > > improve rendition of M9 files. The current fix for LR2.6 users is to > > > > download and use LR2.6.1. The only change is the elimination of that > > bug > > > > and > > > > it is only relevant for M9 users. The problem does not occur with the > > LR3 > > > > beta (which also has significantly better rendition, noise reduction > > and > > > > sharpening powers). > > > > > > > > I have recently done a complete new clean install on a new sytem (64 > > bit, > > > > Yeah!) and am only just catching up. I have found that the bug > exists > > in > > > > Adobe Camera Raw 5.6 as well, however there is no ACR5.6.1 available > > > > currently. Adobe has acknowledged the issue with both LR and ACR and > > > > reports > > > > that a fix will be available shortly. In the meantime I need to stay > > out > > > of > > > > Adobe Camera Raw with M9 files and as a minor issue, trying to edit a > > DNG > > > > in > > > > Photoshop (from LR) reports the mismatch in versions as well, once > you > > > > install the LR2.6.1 although the cure is not yet here. I don't have > the > > > > LR2.6RC (release candidate) any longer. It did not exhibit the > crashing > > > > behaviour but I don't know if version matching was an issue there. > > > > > > > > Personally I am looking forward to the release of LR3 and I hope a > > cheap > > > > upgrade. Mant M9 owners tht already own LR are waiting to find out if > > > they > > > > will be able to use their entitlement to download LR to receive LR3. > We > > > > shall see. > > > > Incidentally, the X1 already has a standard profile (usable in both > > > > applications of course) although the S2 does not. Neither X1 DNG > files > > > nor > > > > those from the S2 provoke the bug. > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Geoff > > > > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Leica Users Group. > > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Leica Users Group. > > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Leica Users Group. > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Leica Users Group. > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > // richard <http://www.imagecraft.com/> blog: < > > http://imagecraft.wordpress.com> > > // portfolio: < > > http://www.dragonsgate.net/pub/richard/PICS/AnotherCalifornia > > > > > // mailing lists: <http://www.imagecraft.com/contact.html> > > [ For technical support on ImageCraft products, please include all > previous > > replies in your msgs. ] > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- // richard <http://www.imagecraft.com/> blog: < http://imagecraft.wordpress.com> // portfolio: <http://www.dragonsgate.net/pub/richard/PICS/AnotherCalifornia > // mailing lists: <http://www.imagecraft.com/contact.html> [ For technical support on ImageCraft products, please include all previous replies in your msgs. ]