[Leica] Zeiss Wide Angle 35mm f/2 Biogon T* ZM

[grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey at mchsi.com)]

Me three, in Iowa.  I used to use Nikon, a hard core Nikon person.  Back in 
the 80's I noticed a drop in quality and ended up with Leica R, I just could 
not bring myself to use Canon, as their stuff just did not even measure up 
to Nikon.  And as Tina has said, the Canon stuff just does not measure up to 
Leica R or M.  Although, I do think she does like the 85/1.2 lens.  ;-)  I, 
like Doug now use the R8 with DMR, and I also use M cameras and lenses.

Everyone has their own preferences, some on here also like and use Olympus, 
Pentax, Canon, Nikon, and Sony etc.  And that is just fine, whatever floats 
your boat, we welcome photos from all here, even though it is a Leica group. 
 And yes, since it is a Leica Group, we will from time to time defend it as 
the best, some people more than others.

Now, as Dr. Ted would say, Stop wasting our time arguing about the 
insignificant crap and start shooting photos to share.

Cheers,
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert D. Baron" <rbaron at concentric.net>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 9:45:15 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [Leica] Zeiss Wide Angle 35mm f/2 Biogon T* ZM

==On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Doug Herr
<wildlightphoto at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Jan Decher wrote:
>
>>The whole thing with Leica Germany being so much better than anything made
>>in Japan is really bogus.
>
> If stated simply as 'county of origin' then I agree. ?Optical and 
> mechanical design and manufacturing QC are what matter, not the culture or 
> currency or language of the people making them. ?One of the best 80-200mm 
> f/4 zoom lenses ever made was the Leica Vario-Elmar, made in Japan to 
> Leica's specs and with Leica's QC.
>
>>And then this whole hoax with the compeletely unaffordable S2 and 
>>abolishing
>>the entire R line that many here came to love and rely on!
>
> There's a reason many of us came to rely on the R system, and it's not 
> because of the language of the people making them. ?They produce the 
> results we want, results we weren't getting with other camera systems. 
> ?All the other camera systems are either made in Japan or made for 
> Japanese companies in lower-cost countries so when typing fingers are 
> getting tired it's often convenient to lump the other makers together as 
> 'Japan'. ?It's not the countries we're comparing, its the design, QC and 
> target markets of the products' manufacturers. ?It's unfortunate that the 
> comparison can devolve so easily into Japan vs. Germany, but at its root 
> that's not what it is.
>
> Doug Herr
> Sacramento
> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
>

+1

I'm with Doug.

Except he's in California and I'm in Oklahoma.

--Bob

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