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Subject: [Leica] A non-scientific comparison of the E3 and M8u
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 13:55:33 -0800
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On Jan 23, 2010, at 1:49 PM, Richard Man wrote:

> OK< this must be what Geoff is referring - my reasoning must be so out
> of whack to the lot of you, I don't quite understand. The assertion is
> not simply that there is a difference, but the difference is obviously
> so one sided that the Leica is much better.
> 
> At least Nathan owns both, but other people use supporting data from
> micro 4/3 cameras etc. That's "seeing what you want to see," IMHO.
> 
> 
> Oh BTW, I used to think that I get occasionally called as "Madame"
> because of my ponytail, now that it's a tiny bobby thing,... I got
> called Madame at LAX!!

that proves my point....

it all comes down to purpose, criteria, resolution,  what sort of measuring 
stick...?

Steve

> I swear, I must look like an ugly Chinese woman....
> 
> On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at 
> gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On Jan 23, 2010, at 1:19 PM, Richard Man wrote:
>> 
>>> Wait a minute, I don;t understand. Are you saying that you can easily
>>> pick up which ones are which?
>>> 
>>> Look, my point is simply that for my purpose, I am as happy about my
>>> E-3 pics as my M8u pics
>> 
>> conditions are not demanding enough to see a difference, between E3, M8, 
>> or even an iphone...
>> 
>> (but so what....)
>> 
>> a relevant question really is ...what is your purpose ?
>> 
>> Remember that from a certain distance, you can't tell the difference 
>> between boys and girls....
>> 
>> does that mean there is no difference?
>> 
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> , and a number of people say that the Leica
>>> pics are obviously, intrinsically, better.
>>> 
>>> So here's a set of photos, which ones are which and are the Leica
>>> intrinsically better?
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at 
>>> gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 23, 2010, at 12:40 AM, Richard Man wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> OK, I just cropped everything to 4x3 proportion for now. Enjoy!
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/richardman/E3M8BakeOff
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> gosh Richard,
>>>> 
>>>> not only is this "demonstration" not scientific as you say, it's not up 
>>>> to the task...
>>>> 
>>>> so which ones are from your iphone?
>>>> 
>>>> joking, just joking.....
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> you are simply proving that we all see what we want to see....
>>>> 
>>>> serious....
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com
>>> // w: http://www.imagecraft.com/pub/Portfolio09/ blog:
>>> http://rfman.wordpress.com
>>> // book: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/745963
>>> 
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> 
> 
> -- 
> // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com
> // w: http://www.imagecraft.com/pub/Portfolio09/ blog:
> http://rfman.wordpress.com
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