Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/01/19
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I'm staying in Massachusetts... not going to fly anywhere! After all, it only takes a few days to drive to the west coast. Jim Henning Wulff wrote: > Seems a fair comment on the economic impact. > > Personally, I'm not going to fly to or through the US anymore unless > unavoidable. If I do have to go anywhere in the US, I'll drive to > Seattle and fly from there, but generally for non-work related trips > I'll avoid the US. > > There have been exceptions, of course, but overall the US > security/border service people have been the rudest, most inconsiderate > and generally unpleasant of any border services I've experienced in the > last 10 years. They certainly give an extremely unpleasant (and > fortunately incaccurate) first impression of the US. > > The truly sad part of this is that the actual security achieved is > minimal, but the bad impression made on all travelers is immense. > > > >> As coincidence would have it, this landed up in my mailbox today: >> >> http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulliver/2010/01/americas_snarling_doormen?Fsrc=glvrnwl >> >> >> >> The full column: >> >> http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15270716 >> >> >> >> Cheers >> Jayanand >> >> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Frank Dernie >> <Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com> wrote: >>> I have some very good friends, and two cousins in the US, I have >>> visited often and we are going to DC in April to celebrate my 60th >>> birthday by visiting friends and family. I hope everything will be >>> plain sailing. These security guys are doing a job not everybody >>> wants and they are probably neither well paid nor well educated. >>> There is a lot of ignorance. I must say, if I had not got the tickets >>> already I would reconsider the trip. >>> I would say that of all the countries I have visited the US >>> officials are the least knowledgeable and most insular. There is a >>> clear impression that they think you are being granted a great >>> privilege being allowed access to their country. Probably extreme >>> nationalism taught in school :-) >>> Frank >>> >>> On 19 Jan, 2010, at 02:58, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote: >>> >>>> I have stopped going to the USA - my last trip was in 2002, and >>>> barring emergencies, or traveling to Galapagos which I plan to do >>>> sometime, that will be my last. Could not stand the paranoid and >>>> intrusive visa and security authorities, and the shoddy and demeaning >>>> treatment meted out to my wife and myself. No reason we have to put up >>>> with that. You cannot change the system, you can only vote with your >>>> feet. >>>> Cheers >>>> Jayanand >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:26 AM, Geoff Hopkinson >>>> <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Hmm, I think that all of our business and leisure travel dollars >>>>> will be >>>>> redirected to Europe and Asia over USA and Canada for the foreseeable >>>>> future. We see some of the restrictions implemented as security >>>>> to be >>>>> arbitrary, overly intrusive, unpleasant and unreasonable while not >>>>> necessarily being effective. When was the last time an Aussie carried >>>>> anything more dangerous than Vegemite into LAX? >>>>> Just my apply for permission in advance, three hours prior to >>>>> departure >>>>> queued, double security procedured, carry on xrayed and pulled apart, >>>>> suitcases unlocked to save the thieves some inconvenience, liquid >>>>> restricted, questioned, through clothing body scanned, metal >>>>> detected, >>>>> patted down, jet lagged two cents worth. >>>>> >>>>> Geoff >>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2010/1/19 philippe.amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr> >>>>> >>>>>> Superb photos (with the latest gear). >>>>>> >>>>>> And it is now settled, I'll be flying SNCF this year again. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for the link Steve >>>>>> Amiti?s >>>>>> Philippe >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Le 18 janv. 10 ? 21:19, Steve Barbour a ?crit : >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://luminous-landscape.com/essays/flying-jan-10.shtml >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>> information >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >