Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/10/30
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]All this Bitching about the M8/9 viewfinder.... It works just fine as is, go out and take pictures and stop crying about the stupid vf. Gene -------------- Original message from Henning Wulff <henningw at archiphoto.com>: -------------- > At 4:36 PM -0700 10/30/09, Frank Filippone wrote: > >Hey, if you don't speak your mind, the status quo continues.... and God > >knows, our beloved M8 cameras will be upgradeable forever......Right! > > > >Daniels has the company line to speak and repeat. He does so well. Yes, > >the M8/M9 are .68 VF cameras. Does that make it a) right, b) customer > >driven, c) the only choice Leica had d) my or your choice? I don't think > >there is history that says.. they could have, customers had no say, not my > >choice or preference. YMMV. > > > >They did not do a higher mag VF for some reason.. what that real reason > >is, > >is Leica's secret..... and they ain;t telling us. > > > >What I get upset at is the incessant statement that it can not be done. > >Or > >that there is no one that wants a higher mag VF.,... I do. I liked my M3 > >finder ... .91 and all that. Sure, it was useless if you had a 35mm lens > >on > >( without eyes) but it was a wonderful shoot with a 50......Both eyes > >open..... remember what is was like to not get a headache if you were > >following the action with your M3, with both eyes..... so that you could > >see > >the action come into your frame? > > > > > > No. no. no. no. no. no. and no. Well, maybe for you. > > > A .55, so I can see the 28 frames clearly with glasses, and a .42, so > I can see the 21 frames clearly with glasses. > > I like the current M8/9 for 35's and above, but it's a bit too tight > for the 35 and almost right for the 50. Maybe a 0.8. > > But right now, if I could have one body that showed me 21mm > framelines, visible with glasses and another body that had the > current framelines I'd be delighted. > > > > > > > > > >Sure it can be done. They already did it... the .85 and .58 M6TTL cameras > >are examples. Maybe you don't like the choices, maybe like me, the M6 28 > >finder is not visible with glasses in a .72 body ( not easily, at least), > >maybe they did it for time to market, stubborn Germanic marketing > >theories, > >or otherwise. > > > >But don't blindly say it can't be done or that they will not do it..... > >Market demand focuses efforts on the "impossible" and or stubbornly > >refused.....and the LUG is one way to getting the word to the uppers at > >Leica that there is a marketing need that needs addressing..... > > > >A higher Mag Digi-M would pump demand for the longer lenses, like the135 > >APO > >Telyt, make focusing easier and more accurate for the Nocti and Summilux > >50 > >and 75, and Summicron 75, and 90 lenses, all valid reasons ( the main > >reason for the .85 M6) for a higher VF mag. > > > >If market demand created a White M8, then market demand can create a > >higher > >mag M8., M9, or M10. > > > >Whatever happens, never lose sight of the power of the consumer to get > >products they want, onto the shelves.... > > > >Speaking of which.. the M9.... No IR filter required, no smaller sensor.. > >all impossible, or so we were told..... > > > >Nonsense. Marketing nonsense. > > > >Want better low light response than an M8 or M9? Complain, incessantly. > > > >It will come... So will my higher mag VF..... > > > >Frank Filippone > >red735i at earthlink.net > > > > > >Of course, there has also been "the final word" from Hans Peter Cohn (no > >digital M) and Steven K. Lee (upgradeable digital M) on many issues. So > >if > >you don't like what you hear on some issue now, wait for the next CEO. > > > >Dante > > > > > >Frank its been hashed over a lot elsewhere and the final word is from > >Stefan > >Daniel. > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Leica Users Group. > >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > -- > > * Henning J. Wulff > /|\ Wulff Photography & Design > /###\ mailto:henningw at archiphoto.com > |[ ]| http://www.archiphoto.com > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information