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Subject: [Leica] X1 might be ok
From: Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com (Frank Dernie)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:13:06 +0100
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yes, it can take M (and R) lenses using adapters, and yes, the panny  
Leica lenses are good.
I have tried the Olympus E-P1 with Leica lenses and it is not bad,  
though a real pita to use.
Frank

On 10 Sep, 2009, at 09:34, Simon Ogilvie wrote:

> I'd been wondering about the GF1 - can it take M lenses with an  
> adaptor like
> the G1 can?  Is it worth trying that or are the Pany/Leica lenses  
> actually
> any good?
>
> Simon.
>
> 2009/9/10 Henning Wulff <henningw at archiphoto.com>
>
>> Apparently the focussing is by one of those endlessly turning fly- 
>> by-wire
>> rings, with only a scale on the LCD. As far as DOF you're on your  
>> own.
>>
>> The performance would have to be a number of classes higher than  
>> the Pany
>> GF1's to justify the price. The high ISO performance is likely  
>> better than
>> the Pany's, but then the Panasonic can be had with a 20/1.7 or 1  
>> 1/2 stops
>> better, so the high ISO had better be quite a few stops better. And  
>> changing
>> lenses is _much_ more difficult on the Leica. Panasonic, on the  
>> other hand
>> has already announced a 14/2.8 (28 equiv.) pancake lens for next  
>> year.
>> Hopefully they can deliver as well as promise.
>>
>> At least there are now some interesting options in this segment.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 4:17 PM -0700 9/9/09, H. Ball Arche wrote:
>>
>>> There are several things I'd want to know about this camera before  
>>> writing
>>> if off.
>>>
>>> How does the manual focus distance scale work, as well as the DOF  
>>> range
>>> indicator? If it's substantially improved over the LX3, with a  
>>> more readable
>>> foot/meter scale, that's a big plus, especially if you can program  
>>> a preset
>>> focal distance.
>>>
>>> Is the ISO 3200 performance really up to spec?
>>>
>>> Does the build quality approach my IIIc? (I'm insisting on seeing  
>>> the X1
>>> as having the Barnack heritage; the brochure says 'all metal'  
>>> construction,
>>> but-)
>>>
>>> And if they could come up with 28 equivalent lens, and drop the  
>>> price to
>>> around $1500 by next fall, for my purposes it would answer quite  
>>> well.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Henning Wulff <henningw at archiphoto.com>
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 3:46:35 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] leica x1 @ popflash
>>>
>>> At 1:33 PM -0700 9/9/09, Richard Man wrote:
>>>
>>>> IF it has much faster write time, then why would anyone else  
>>>> wants a
>>>> Sigma DP-1, DP-2 etc.?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> 1/2 the price? Foveon quality?
>>>
>>> I tried the DP-1 for a bit; in my personal opinion an almost  
>>> unuseable
>>> camera, but still, some people like it. The DP-2 is better, but  
>>> not enough.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, if you have Leica lenses, why would you want an  
>>> X-1?
>>> Used M8 prices are pretty close to X-1 prices, and while the X-1 has
>>> autofocus, I doubt that it has as little lag as the M8.
>>>
>>>
>> --
>>
>>  *            Henning J. Wulff
>> /|\      Wulff Photography & Design
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