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Subject: [Leica] Death of PJ, revisited
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:36:14 -0700
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On Aug 25, 2009, at 10:36 AM, TED GRANT wrote:

> Steve Barbour offered:
>
>> will that fix things? NO, but high quality images and prints
>> will be  valued more than ever...<<<<<<<
>
>  I have said this before given today's world of electronics and  
> photo viewing on computer screens.
> Make a couple of 13X19 prints of one or two of your best and have  
> them handy when you show your photographs on the computer screen.  
> Then after, simply hand the print or prints to an editor, art  
> director and if your material is well printed and a fine photograph  
> the viewer will near wet their pants while holding the print in  
> their hands!


sad,  this devaluation of photography...

it's just this sort of thing that paradoxically will finally give the  
great images and prints their long overdue appreciation as fine art...



Steve



>
> If you don't believe me .... "JUST DO IT AND WATCH THE REACTION!!"
> Today everybody looks at a computer screen probably as many times as  
> they breath whether it's good bad or ugly photography. It becomes an  
> eyeball and visually tiring process after 12-16 hours a day.  
> However!!! Place a beautiful print in their hands and it's a whole  
> new world of appreciation of a fine well printed photograph!
> If a photojournalist has completed or well on the way to completing  
> a project and has an appointment with an editor take the main body  
> of work in print form.... "BIG PRINTS!" You will receive more of  
> their time while they caringly take each print in hand enjoying the  
> visual moment rather than just another computer screen fly by image  
> that sort of looks like the images of the last 365 days!
>
> Once again! "IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME.... TRY IT!"
> Dr. ted
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
> Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:59 am
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Death of PJ, revisited
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>
>>
>> On Aug 25, 2009, at 7:42 AM, George Lottermoser wrote:
>>
>>> For clarity:
>>> I do agree with you that the photographic print
>>> holds the true secret to the beauty of the medium.
>>
>> ___________
>>
>>> So brain storming
>>> how to make this, current state, work
>>> remains the challenge.
>>
>>
>> as an amateur,  my joe guy average take:   while
>> brainstorming is no
>> doubt productive and may produce motivation and
>> promising
>> directions...
>>
>> the market place will do the talking... in the long run ?
>>
>> the beautiful photograph, the print ...will be so far out, it
>> becomes
>> in...
>>
>>
>>
>> seeing a good one will give people a jolt,
>>
>> as it should be, as it used to...
>>
>> will that fix things? NO, but high quality images and prints
>> will be
>> valued more than ever...
>>
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> George Lottermoser
>>> george at imagist.com
>>> http://www.imagist.com
>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>>
>>> On Aug 24, 2009, at 11:22 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Yet you show us your paying gig
>>>>> as a slide show / interview
>>>>>
>>>>> how many hits do those NYT show receive?
>>>>>
>>>>> How many "prints" did you sell last month?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes exactly the point.
>>>>
>>>> People do see stuff on the internet more than they're ever
>> going to
>>>> see your
>>>> prints.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>> warm regards, Steve
>> steve.barbour at gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
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warm regards, Steve
steve.barbour at gmail.com










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