[Leica] M8

[frank.dernie at btinternet.com (FRANK DERNIE)]

Hi Neil, I do have a Nikon D300 and two Nikon 50mnm f1.4 lens of different 
vintages, amongst others. I can assure you it is -much- bigger than my M8, 
or M6. I also own the new and older Leica 50mm f1.4 lenses. They are both 
noticeably better than the Nikon at f1.4, the new one astonishingly so, 
probably as much as you might expect from the price difference. The leica 
lenses are also -much- smaller.
The differences in quality between the lenses is -much- more easily noticed 
in digital than from film, which tends to fuzz out the difference somewhat.
IME
Frank


----- Original Message ----
From: Neil Beddoe <Neil.Beddoe at mbamfunds.com>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Friday, 21 August, 2009 4:45:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] M8

Your photography is outstanding so I'm reluctant to argue with you but I 
don't think your pictures would be any worse or less marketable if you shot 
them on a Nikon D300 or its Canon equivalent or any other decent digital 
camera which is just as small and portable.? You can buy NINE Nikon 50mm 
f1.4s for the price of one 50mm Summilux and 99.99999% of the population of 
the world would be unable to understand any justification you may care to 
make for that,? particularly when the difference in resolution is difficult 
to detect on ultra fine grain film let alone a digital sensor. 

I like my Leica and its lenses because they look cool and are fun to use but 
that's no more rational than my desire for a 1960s Aston Martin DB5 as a 
means of transport.? I wouldn't mind betting that deep down, if they really 
thought hard about it and looked at the pictures they take with other 
hardware, most Leica users would come to the same conclusion.? 

Rich men(and women's) toys.




-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+neil.beddoe=mbamfunds.com at leica-users.org 
[mailto:lug-bounces+neil.beddoe=mbamfunds.com at leica-users.org] On Behalf 
Of Tina Manley
Sent: 21 August 2009 15:15
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] M8

At 07:01 AM 8/21/2009, you wrote:
>I love my little M6 and its fantastically 
>over-hyped and over-priced lenses but why anyone 
>would buy a digital Leica depreciation box has 
>always been beyond me.? Now I hear they die if 
>someone breathes damp breath on them!
>
>I look forward to the day when they sell for 
>?150 so I can have a play with one.? Nobody else 
>will buy them because hardened Leica users will 
>blow their thousands on the latest gizmo (if the 
>S2 doesn't bring the company down first) and 
>nobody else will buy one because they won't be able to afford the lenses.
>
>Neil

Well, I for one have bought two of the digital 
Leica boxes both of which have paid for 
themselves within months of purchasing them.? I 
used M3's, M4's, M6's, M7's - now I use 
M8's.? They are a tool I use to take 
photographs.? They don't die if you breathe on 
them. I have had more electronic problems with my 
pro level Canon 5D and 1DMII than I have with my 
M8's.? I have saved enough in film and developing 
since I got my M8's? to be able to spend 
thousands on the next latest gizmo from Leica 
which I hope will be an M9.? I don't consider my 
Leica lenses to be over-hyped or over-priced.? I 
consider them to be the best lenses for the type 
of photography I do.? That's the only reason I have them.

Tina

Tina Manley
www.tinamanley.com 


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