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Subject: [Leica] speaking of cars... wayback
From: Jim at hemenway.com (Jim Hemenway)
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:36:09 -0400
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Not a Jensen Healey, but here's Barbara, my 1956 Austin Healey and me in 
1959.

A lot of fun but what a pain in the neck to fix... damn Strombergs and 
even more damned Whitworth threads!

http://www.hemenway.com/AustinHealey.jpg

Jim, "I haven't looked like that for such a long time." Hemenway



Robert Clark wrote:
> I used to drive my uncle's 1974 Jensen Healey...with the Lotus engine, a 
> Vauxhaul gearbox (I believe), along with two Stromberg carbs...like a 
> little rocket and I always loved it. Was my intro to what a sports car 
> was and I've never gotten over it! Being 17, driving that with the cute 
> girl down the road, and feeling the acceleration of the car was magical!
> 
> Robert Clark
> Lancaster, PA
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Dernie" 
> <Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 1:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] speaking of cars violently OT
> 
> 
>> Try an Elise.
>> Frank
>>
>> On 11 Jul, 2009, at 06:06, Adam Bridge wrote:
>>
>>> I had a Lotus S2 - two 2-barrel Webers. It was a RIP to drive but  
>>> needed
>>> lots of TLC as cars of that era did.
>>> I loved the close-ratio gearbox and how it would leap ahead with the
>>> slightest urging. Stopped darn well too!
>>>
>>> Of course it would never pass today's crash tests but I'd love a  modern
>>> Lotus roadster to be a retake on the Elan. The top can leak, that's 
>>> okay!
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Frank Dernie
>>> <Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Elan S4 was a favourite of mine. It had Stromberg carbs which  
>>>> gave more
>>>> power and broader torque band than the more fashionable Webers, and 
>>>> better
>>>> fuel consumption. It was surprisingly roomy for such a tiny light  car.
>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11 Jul, 2009, at 00:42, Jerry Lehrer wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dennis und Frank
>>>>>
>>>>> The original Europa mit Renault engine was a dog!   But the original
>>>>> Elite, if it had modern brakes would really be
>>>>> a windy road car.  The Elan S2 when de-bugged is a superb handling 
>>>>> car.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I've used them all
>>>>>
>>>>> Jerry Lehrer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dennis wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Frank,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wondered your thoughts on Lotus' road cars. I  had a Europa  
>>>>>> Special and
>>>>>> it is a marvel. Very light, incredible suspension, and so  
>>>>>> responsive. I
>>>>>> thought Colin Chapman brilliant and was stunned at his premature 
>>>>>> passing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I could never afford one of todays 'supercars' but if I could I  
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> likely own a Lotus and use some of that "leftover" money for a  
>>>>>> worthy cause.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree the Veyron is an ugly piece ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But, Lotus aside, what do  you make of the Ariel Atom?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frank Dernie wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pagani Zonda.
>>>>>>> For "frequent" use Ferrari 599.
>>>>>>> For daily use Porsche 911 turbo.
>>>>>>> For pure driving Lotus anything.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are lots of cars about which have fancy styling and are "2 
>>>>>>> seat
>>>>>>> limos" with loads of kit, weight and electronic driving aids to  
>>>>>>> make them
>>>>>>> easy to drive for less good drivers.
>>>>>>> These are great pose-mobiles and practical for a rich person of 
>>>>>>> limited
>>>>>>> talent to show-off in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I may have left some out, I am neither wealthy enough nor  
>>>>>>> interested
>>>>>>> enough to study in detail. Weight is the most important chassis 
>>>>>>> parameter
>>>>>>> for performance. Road cars are to a great extent a fashion item  
>>>>>>> and image
>>>>>>> statement. Published stuff tends to be acceleration and top  
>>>>>>> speed. It is
>>>>>>> possible to get impressive figures for these without much chassis
>>>>>>> sophistication at all. Since weight is currently not something 
>>>>>>> fashionable
>>>>>>> to minimise "supercars" are now as heavy as trucks, hence no  longer
>>>>>>> supercars IMO. This Bugatti thing weighs the same as 2 Ford GT40s!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To put perspective on this, +10kg on a F1 car loses over 0.3  
>>>>>>> secs per
>>>>>>> lap.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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