Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/07/09

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Subject: [Leica] Nikon Rumors
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:13:52 -0400

I don't think with all the remotely serious photography being done on larger
and larger sensors and Leica forgoing 4/3s according to Geoff's report
because of the sensor size not being big enough that wanting to move up in
sensor size and not down is not silly on my part.
Normally Leica shooters are a tad more serious than the SLR and point and
shoot masses so I don't think its at all off topic.
The 4/3s and glorified point and shoots to not help them in this direction.
If Barnack had come out with a 24x18 format camrea and not a 24x36 we'd not
be talking about him now as we'd have never heard of it. The Leica M half
frame could not have made it against everyone else shooting 24x36.
That's exactly where we are now.

According to Geoff's report the M9 is in the works and its full frame.
This will keep the Leica M in business.
If its not true the Leica M will tank big time in very few years.
Without it your not going to find people spending thousands on glass to put
them in front of a cropped sensor in very many months let along years.
There is no serious wave of shooters going down in format.
Its just not happening. Who shot half frame?
Look through any magazine, photo, fashion, consumer your not going to be
seeing many if any jobs done with a 4/3's 2x crop sensor. And not that many
with a 1.5 or 1.3 crop sensor either.
90 percent of it is being done with a 1x crop sensor.
The 2x is great for camera companies who did not have established SLR's
already out in the works they could just put a 1.5 crop or full frame sensor
in front of. No one else cares.
We need to be aiming up not down.

Luckily all the glass we've spent much money on will work on a 24x36mm
sensor when it finally comes out. M9 Leica or S3 Nikon (I doubt). Or Bessa D
Cosina. (maybe)
Thanks to the rumor with the date on it.

A rumor with a date on it by the way as far as I go is a rumor with a date
on it.
Just like a rumor with decimal points. And exact specs.
Lies are often hyper specific.


Mark William Rabiner



> From: Richard Man <richard.lists at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 16:18:12 -0700
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Nikon Rumors
> 
> Mark, this one is easy.
> 
> It's called Wishful Thinking.
> 
> As in if we spread this enough time, it will be a "true" rumor.
> 
> Yup, Nikon digital Rangefinder with M mount in Feb 2010. Now there's
> even a date on it!
> 
> Lets see how well this one flies compared to "4/3 must be so much
> worse than APS-C because the sensor is so tiny" non-sense.
> 
> or the "I will be very surprised if Leica does not have a full frame
> digital M by end of 2007." Someone lost a roll of Tri-X to me on that
> one but of course he claims forgetfulness and "oops, did I say that?"




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