[Leica] Nikon Rumors

[kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney)]

Mark,

I was wondering and you would probably know.  I have a Canon 40D which seems
to make a nice uncropped print up to about 10x15".  The Canon 5dMkII
full-frame is considerably larger.  I will probably keep printing not much
larger than 10x15 image size, so I was thinking the larger sensor would give
me some more cropping room at least.  I try usually to shoot un-cropped if
possible, and was wondering if the larger sensor would give me a better
print in that case, or on the other hand, if I could get the same quality as
the 40D by cropping to equivalent size?  (I have some of the Canon "L"
glass.)  Hope that makes sense and thx for any thoughts.  (I live in the
middle of nowhere so it is difficult to field test these things without
purchasing.)

Ken

> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+kcarney1=cox.net at leica-users.org [mailto:lug-
> bounces+kcarney1=cox.net at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Mark Rabiner
> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 7:14 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Nikon Rumors
> 
> I don't think with all the remotely serious photography being done on
> larger
> and larger sensors and Leica forgoing 4/3s according to Geoff's report
> because of the sensor size not being big enough that wanting to move up in
> sensor size and not down is not silly on my part.
> Normally Leica shooters are a tad more serious than the SLR and point and
> shoot masses so I don't think its at all off topic.
> The 4/3s and glorified point and shoots to not help them in this
> direction.
> If Barnack had come out with a 24x18 format camrea and not a 24x36 we'd
> not
> be talking about him now as we'd have never heard of it. The Leica M half
> frame could not have made it against everyone else shooting 24x36.
> That's exactly where we are now.
> 
> According to Geoff's report the M9 is in the works and its full frame.
> This will keep the Leica M in business.
> If its not true the Leica M will tank big time in very few years.
> Without it your not going to find people spending thousands on glass to
> put
> them in front of a cropped sensor in very many months let along years.
> There is no serious wave of shooters going down in format.
> Its just not happening. Who shot half frame?
> Look through any magazine, photo, fashion, consumer your not going to be
> seeing many if any jobs done with a 4/3's 2x crop sensor. And not that
> many
> with a 1.5 or 1.3 crop sensor either.
> 90 percent of it is being done with a 1x crop sensor.
> The 2x is great for camera companies who did not have established SLR's
> already out in the works they could just put a 1.5 crop or full frame
> sensor
> in front of. No one else cares.
> We need to be aiming up not down.
> 
> Luckily all the glass we've spent much money on will work on a 24x36mm
> sensor when it finally comes out. M9 Leica or S3 Nikon (I doubt). Or Bessa
> D
> Cosina. (maybe)
> Thanks to the rumor with the date on it.
> 
> A rumor with a date on it by the way as far as I go is a rumor with a date
> on it.
> Just like a rumor with decimal points. And exact specs.
> Lies are often hyper specific.
> 
> 
> Mark William Rabiner