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Subject: [Leica] Intro & question: part 2
From: henningw at archiphoto.com (Henning Wulff)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 20:48:10 -0700
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Bob, as I mentioned it's the screen image. Using a magnifier will 
make the mush look bigger. I don't need bigger mush, I need less mush 
and sharper images. That's up to Canon.

Again, the 5D MkII is fine; it's just the 40D. And other 40D's I've 
tried are the same.



At 6:46 PM -0700 6/1/09, Bob Adler wrote:
>No, the loupe:
>http://hoodmanusa.com/products.asp?dept=1017
>
>Depends on how you're shooting. I use my Canon really only for 
>landscapes; tripod mounted, tilt/shift lenses mostly except for 
>macro. Using this on the screen, and magnifying the screen to the 
>maximum, I can see if I've got my focal points where I want them. 
>It's great because the screen actually shows the effects of stopping 
>down when in live view.
>
>So this is a good gadget for my Canon shooting. I don't use anything 
>with my M8; only glance at the histogram to see if I've clipped 
>anything...
>Best,
>Bob
>
>  Bob Adler
>Palo Alto, CA
>http://www.raflexions.com
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Henning Wulff <henningw at archiphoto.com>
>To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 6:11:43 PM
>Subject: Re: [Leica] Intro & question: part 2
>
>I'm assuming you mean the screen hood that they produce, rather than
>the CF cards or whatever.
>
>This isn't something that shielding can help; it's in the image
>itself. It's terrible.
>
>
>
>At 6:08 PM -0700 6/1/09, Bob Adler wrote:
>>Henning,
>>Have you tried using a Hoodman?
>>Bob
>>
>>   Bob Adler
>>Palo Alto, CA
>>http://www.raflexions.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>>From: Henning Wulff <henningw at archiphoto.com>
>>To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 6:05:48 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Leica] Intro & question: part 2
>>
>>For a number of years now my SLR needs have been met by Canons. At
>>present I use among others a 40D. What annoys me most about it is
>>that the screen at the back really doesn't help me much with how
>>sharp the photo is that I just took or am taking. It always displays
>>quite mushy. Yet when I take a technically decent shot, bring it into
>>the computer and look at it, it's OK. It's that damned screen image!
>>
>>I was very disappointed at first when I switched over from the 20D to
>>the 40D, as the 20D with it's small screen actually gave a much more
>>accurate impression of the shot, especially when magnified. The
>>strange thing is that the 5D, and now the 5D MkII, show quite sharp
>>images on playback. It just seems to be the 40D. Whenever the 60D??
>>comes out I'll have a look and if the screen on playback shows the
>>scene better, I'll get it immediately.
>>
>>BTW, increasing the sharpness in the menus doesn't do a thing when
>>shooting RAW. I don't know and don't care about jpeg shots.
>>
>>
>>
>>At 1:11 PM -0700 6/1/09, William D. Tallman wrote:
>>>Thanks to all that responded to the original post.
>>>
>>>Live View on a Canon 40D avoids all mirrors and prisms, as what one sees
>>>is what the sensor sees.  Manual focus at maximum magnification is
>>>probably somewhere close to what once would see on the monitor at full
>>>size.  I'm saying that because I've shot this particular scene a number
>>>of times, as it has a varying gradient of detail, etc, etc.
>>>
>>>With regard the AA filter:  After reading the site (Hot Rod filters...),
>>>and recalling various clean room protocols that I don't have, doing that
>>>procedure myself on a non-dedicated camera seemed foolish.  And I don't
>>>know that the AA filter is the cause of my complaint.
>>>
>>>Typically, that degree of sharpness requires larger format == less
>>>magnification, and yes, the print is the performance for which applause
>>>is given.  I'm going to take delivery of an Epson 3800, which means that
>>>large prints will be inevitable (does one regard a 16x20 print as large
>>>now?); I want to know what I can expect.  Mostly, I want to know what I
>>>need to watch for (when we know better, we can do better...) in my
>>>taking techniques.
>>>
>>>Thanks for reading.
>>>
>>>Bill Tallman
>>>
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>Leica Users Group.
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>>
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>>      *            Henning J. Wulff
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>>
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