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Subject: [Leica] Intro & question: part 2
From: rgacpa at yahoo.com (Bob Adler)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 19:33:13 -0700 (PDT)
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Neither :-)
Because it's a completely different shooting style...

 Bob Adler
Palo Alto, CA
http://www.raflexions.com




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From: Thein Onn Ming <mingthein at gmail.com>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 7:13:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Intro & question: part 2

Is it because the M8 LCD is so lousy outdoors that you can't really judge 
anything on it, or because preview/ magnify takes ages? :P

Don't worry, I used to check every shot with the D3 because it was so fast 
that I could. I don't with the M8 anymore, because it's so bright in the 
tropics that half the time I can't even see the darn LCD!

On Jun 2, 2009, at 9:46 AM, Bob Adler wrote:

> No, the loupe:
> http://hoodmanusa.com/products.asp?dept=1017
> 
> Depends on how you're shooting. I use my Canon really only for landscapes; 
> tripod mounted, tilt/shift lenses mostly except for macro. Using this on 
> the screen, and magnifying the screen to the maximum, I can see if I've 
> got my focal points where I want them. It's great because the screen 
> actually shows the effects of stopping down when in live view.
> 
> So this is a good gadget for my Canon shooting. I don't use anything with 
> my M8; only glance at the histogram to see if I've clipped anything...
> Best,
> Bob
> 
>  Bob Adler
> Palo Alto, CA
> http://www.raflexions.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Henning Wulff <henningw at archiphoto.com>
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 6:11:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Intro & question: part 2
> 
> I'm assuming you mean the screen hood that they produce, rather than
> the CF cards or whatever.
> 
> This isn't something that shielding can help; it's in the image
> itself. It's terrible.
> 
> 
> 
> At 6:08 PM -0700 6/1/09, Bob Adler wrote:
>> Henning,
>> Have you tried using a Hoodman?
>> Bob
>> 
>>  Bob Adler
>> Palo Alto, CA
>> http://www.raflexions.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Henning Wulff <henningw at archiphoto.com>
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 6:05:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Intro & question: part 2
>> 
>> For a number of years now my SLR needs have been met by Canons. At
>> present I use among others a 40D. What annoys me most about it is
>> that the screen at the back really doesn't help me much with how
>> sharp the photo is that I just took or am taking. It always displays
>> quite mushy. Yet when I take a technically decent shot, bring it into
>> the computer and look at it, it's OK. It's that damned screen image!
>> 
>> I was very disappointed at first when I switched over from the 20D to
>> the 40D, as the 20D with it's small screen actually gave a much more
>> accurate impression of the shot, especially when magnified. The
>> strange thing is that the 5D, and now the 5D MkII, show quite sharp
>> images on playback. It just seems to be the 40D. Whenever the 60D??
>> comes out I'll have a look and if the screen on playback shows the
>> scene better, I'll get it immediately.
>> 
>> BTW, increasing the sharpness in the menus doesn't do a thing when
>> shooting RAW. I don't know and don't care about jpeg shots.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> At 1:11 PM -0700 6/1/09, William D. Tallman wrote:
>>> Thanks to all that responded to the original post.
>>> 
>>> Live View on a Canon 40D avoids all mirrors and prisms, as what one sees
>>> is what the sensor sees.  Manual focus at maximum magnification is
>>> probably somewhere close to what once would see on the monitor at full
>>> size.  I'm saying that because I've shot this particular scene a number
>>> of times, as it has a varying gradient of detail, etc, etc.
>>> 
>>> With regard the AA filter:  After reading the site (Hot Rod filters...),
>>> and recalling various clean room protocols that I don't have, doing that
>>> procedure myself on a non-dedicated camera seemed foolish.  And I don't
>>> know that the AA filter is the cause of my complaint.
>>> 
>>> Typically, that degree of sharpness requires larger format == less
>>> magnification, and yes, the print is the performance for which applause
>>> is given.  I'm going to take delivery of an Epson 3800, which means that
>>> large prints will be inevitable (does one regard a 16x20 print as large
>>> now?); I want to know what I can expect.  Mostly, I want to know what I
>>> need to watch for (when we know better, we can do better...) in my
>>> taking techniques.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for reading.
>>> 
>>> Bill Tallman
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
>> --
>> 
>>     *            Henning J. Wulff
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