Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/05/30
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I have to agree with George here, David. And add that I have no idea why. If I was building cameras, I'd be putting a non-AA, non-bayer pure monochrome version of the D3 sensor and digital guts inside an M8 body. With the D3 shutter mechanism, too. And add weather sealing to the M8... Thein Onn Ming Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2009, at 7:55, George Lottermoser <imagist3 at mac.com> wrote: > quite correct David > > Each equipment manufacturer builds to their perceived market. > AA filters not only decrease moire > they also correct aliasing and color fringing by less then optimal > optics; > which allows for looser design and manufacturing tolerances. > > You're also correct that each photographer > seeks the best solution > for their imaging needs. > > Lucky for us > many alternatives > at many price points > exist for us to choose from. > > Regards, > > George Lottermoser > george at imagist.com > http://www.imagist.com > http://www.imagist.com/blog > http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist > > On May 30, 2009, at 6:11 PM, David Rodgers wrote: > >> Thein, >> >> The whole concept of AA filters has me a bit baffled. If they >> improve acuity so much, why do camera companies like Nikon and >> Canon use them in their top end cameras. I mean, they have smart >> engineers. So AA they must be there for a reason. And Leica, by not >> using them, must gain something; but they also must be giving up >> something, too. I have my own opinions of what those somethings >> are, based on using a D200 that had the hi pass filter removed. >> >> A lot probably depends on what type of photography a person does. >> What may be an issue with some subject matter may not be with >> another. Acutance is important in some types of photography. But >> not so much in others. If the ability to resolve fine detail >> dwarfed all other factors, Tech Pan would have outsold TriX, >> instead of visa versa. >> >> I've always put a lot of stock in low light performance. But that's >> just me. Probably because I learned long ago that if I have to >> shoot at too low a shutter speed any potential acutance in the >> tools I'm using disappears in a hurry. >> >> DaveR >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ming Thein [mailto:mingthein at gmail.com] >> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 7:27 PM >> To: Leica Users Group >> Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: D3x vs 'Blad CFV 16MP full sized samples >> >> >> You still have to use sharpening all the time to get optimal acuity. >> You don't with the M8. >> >> Thein Onn Ming >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 30, 2009, at 0:39, "David Rodgers" <drodgers at casefarms.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Thein, >>> >>>>> The D3x still has an AA filter, and while it has the best per- >>>>> pixel detail I've seen, it doesn't come close to the M8/DMR/CFV. >>>>> Those cameras have no AA filter.<< >>> >>> Could you please be moir? specific regarding "doesn't come close"? >>> >>> DaveR >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information