Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/01/17
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]-30- not so bold or brazen as to claim the final word on anything. Simply meant I am done ----- Original Message ----- From: "H. Ball Arche" <h_arche@yahoo.com> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [Leica] Found on e-Bay >S wrote: >>Ball, the brief answer is, yes indeed, Lluis' webpage >> was moved somewhere. Electronically. Onto an eBay auction >> site. > > I didn't see Lluis's webpage at an ebay auction site - I saw a link that > directed me to Lluis's webpage. Nothing was moved anywhere. > > S continued: >> Your public library analogy has no relationship to this matter. >> No one has suggested that Lluis doesn't want his photos >> looked at. You've simply missed the point. > > I could say the same. > > S ends with: >> -30- > > Do you think yours is the final word on this? For myself, I don't want to > make that claim. > > > --- On Sat, 1/17/09, Seth Rosner <sethrosner@nycap.rr.com> wrote: > >> From: Seth Rosner <sethrosner@nycap.rr.com> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Found on e-Bay >> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org> >> Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 8:34 AM >> Ball, the brief answer is, yes indeed, Lluis' webpage >> was moved somewhere. Electronically. Onto an eBay auction >> site. For the benefit of the taker. Without permission. Your >> public library analogy has no relationship to this matter. >> No one has suggested that Lluis doesn't want his photos >> looked at. You've simply missed the point. >> >> -30- >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "H. Ball >> Arche" <h_arche@yahoo.com> >> To: "Leica Users Group" >> <lug@leica-users.org> >> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 9:12 AM >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Found on e-Bay >> >> >> > Seth wrote: >> > "It is very wrong indeed to take >> > someone else's work without permission" >> > >> > Well, you'd have to explain to me how anything has >> been taken. Was Lluis's webpage hijacked and moved >> somewhere? Did someone present his pictures as their own? >> > >> > It's as if, standing in a public library I told >> someone 'if you go two rows over and three shelves down >> you'll find a really great book full of maps of >> India', or 'drive by 1234 Maple street in Maxwell >> House New York and you'll see a prime example of Prairie >> Architecture'. >> > >> > Nobody has taken anything - someone has simply made >> the benefits of their research available. That's just >> what the Web does. >> > >> > If you don't want strangers looking at your >> pictures, DON"T PUT THEM ON THE WEB. Or, if you want to >> have at least some limited control, post them in a place >> like the LUG gallery, which Brian has made to be >> non-searchable. >> > >> > >> > --- On Sat, 1/17/09, Seth Rosner >> <sethrosner@nycap.rr.com> wrote: >> > >> >> From: Seth Rosner <sethrosner@nycap.rr.com> >> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Found on e-Bay >> >> To: "Leica Users Group" >> <lug@leica-users.org> >> >> Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 6:58 AM >> >> Sorry to disagree. Strongly. It is very wrong >> indeed to take >> >> someone else's work without permission and, in >> this >> >> case, without even notice to the owner, which Luis >> is, and >> >> use it for one's advantage. The legal term is >> >> misappropriation and although it might not be >> actionable as >> >> a practical matter, is it wrong both legally and >> morally. >> >> >> >> just my 2c. >> >> >> >> Seth >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "H. Ball >> >> Arche" <h_arche@yahoo.com> >> >> To: "Leica Users Group" >> >> <lug@leica-users.org> >> >> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 6:40 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Found on e-Bay >> >> >> >> >> >> > Personally I don't think the seller has >> done >> >> anything out of line. >> >> > >> >> > In the last few years whenever I've gone >> to buy a >> >> new lens I've researched it by looking at >> galleries that >> >> have the lens I'm interested in as a tag. >> Effectively, >> >> when you put that gallery together as being shot >> with that >> >> lens, you created a sort of billboard for it in a >> very >> >> public place. >> >> > >> >> > I don't think you should expect to be >> asked for >> >> permission if somebody else wants to make a link >> to your >> >> site, although it would have been nice had he >> given you a >> >> credit line in his ebay listing. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Lluis Ripoll >> >> <luisripoll@telefonica.net> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> From: Lluis Ripoll >> >> <luisripoll@telefonica.net> >> >> >> Subject: [Leica] Found on e-Bay >> >> >> To: "Leica Users Group" >> >> <lug@leica-users.org> >> >> >> Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 3:25 PM >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> >> >> I've saw this on e-bay, a Cooke >> Amotal like >> >> mine: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://cgi.ebay.es/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310115966255 >> >> >> >> >> >> On the advertising it is a link showing >> the >> >> pictures with >> >> >> this lens, I saw it... and this is my >> Gallery with >> >> this >> >> >> lens!, please look at "Please visit >> this >> >> link..." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=848443 >> >> >> >> >> >> What do you think? it is correct ? >> >> >> >> >> >> Of course internet is a open window to >> the >> >> world...., but I >> >> >> didn't expect this... >> >> >> >> >> >> Saludos cordiales >> >> >> Lluis >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Leica Users Group. >> >> >> See >> http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug >> >> for more >> >> >> information >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> >> > Leica Users Group. >> >> > See >> http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for >> >> more information >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1898 - >> Release >> >> Date: 1/16/2009 3:09 PM >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Leica Users Group. >> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug >> for more >> >> information >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Leica Users Group. >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for >> more information >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1898 - Release >> Date: 1/16/2009 3:09 PM >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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