[Leica] Found on e-Bay

[h_arche at yahoo.com (H. Ball Arche)]

S wrote:
>Ball, the brief answer is, yes indeed, Lluis' webpage
> was moved somewhere. Electronically. Onto an eBay auction
> site.

I didn't see Lluis's webpage at an ebay auction site - I saw a link that 
directed me to Lluis's webpage.  Nothing was moved anywhere.

S continued:
> Your public library analogy has no relationship to this matter.
> No one has suggested that Lluis doesn't want his photos
> looked at. You've simply missed the point.

I could say the same.

S ends with:
> -30-

Do you think yours is the final word on this? For myself, I don't want to 
make that claim.


--- On Sat, 1/17/09, Seth Rosner <sethrosner@nycap.rr.com> wrote:

> From: Seth Rosner <sethrosner@nycap.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Found on e-Bay
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 8:34 AM
> Ball, the brief answer is, yes indeed, Lluis' webpage
> was moved somewhere. Electronically. Onto an eBay auction
> site. For the benefit of the taker. Without permission. Your
> public library analogy has no relationship to this matter.
> No one has suggested that Lluis doesn't want his photos
> looked at. You've simply missed the point.
> 
> -30-
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "H. Ball
> Arche" <h_arche@yahoo.com>
> To: "Leica Users Group"
> <lug@leica-users.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 9:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Found on e-Bay
> 
> 
> > Seth wrote:
> > "It is very wrong indeed to take
> > someone else's work without permission"
> > 
> > Well, you'd have to explain to me how anything has
> been taken. Was Lluis's webpage hijacked and moved
> somewhere? Did someone present his pictures as their own?
> > 
> > It's as if, standing in a public library I told
> someone 'if you go two rows over and three shelves down
> you'll find a really great book full of maps of
> India', or 'drive by 1234 Maple street in Maxwell
> House New York and you'll see a prime example of Prairie
> Architecture'.
> > 
> > Nobody has taken anything - someone has simply made
> the benefits of their research available. That's just
> what the Web does.
> > 
> > If you don't want strangers looking at your
> pictures, DON"T PUT THEM ON THE WEB. Or, if you want to
> have at least some limited control, post them in a place
> like the LUG gallery, which Brian has made to be
> non-searchable.
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Sat, 1/17/09, Seth Rosner
> <sethrosner@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> From: Seth Rosner <sethrosner@nycap.rr.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Found on e-Bay
> >> To: "Leica Users Group"
> <lug@leica-users.org>
> >> Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 6:58 AM
> >> Sorry to disagree. Strongly. It is very wrong
> indeed to take
> >> someone else's work without permission and, in
> this
> >> case, without even notice to the owner, which Luis
> is, and
> >> use it for one's advantage. The legal term is
> >> misappropriation and although it might not be
> actionable as
> >> a practical matter, is it wrong both legally and
> morally.
> >> 
> >> just my 2c.
> >> 
> >> Seth
> >> 
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "H. Ball
> >> Arche" <h_arche@yahoo.com>
> >> To: "Leica Users Group"
> >> <lug@leica-users.org>
> >> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 6:40 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Found on e-Bay
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > Personally I don't think the seller has
> done
> >> anything out of line.
> >> >
> >> > In the last few years whenever I've gone
> to buy a
> >> new lens I've researched it by looking at
> galleries that
> >> have the lens I'm interested in as a tag.
> Effectively,
> >> when you put that gallery together as being shot
> with that
> >> lens, you created a sort of billboard for it in a
> very
> >> public place.
> >> >
> >> > I don't think you should expect to be
> asked for
> >> permission if somebody else wants to make a link
> to your
> >> site, although it would have been nice had he
> given you a
> >> credit line in his ebay listing.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Lluis Ripoll
> >> <luisripoll@telefonica.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> From: Lluis Ripoll
> >> <luisripoll@telefonica.net>
> >> >> Subject: [Leica] Found on e-Bay
> >> >> To: "Leica Users Group"
> >> <lug@leica-users.org>
> >> >> Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 3:25 PM
> >> >> Hi all,
> >> >>
> >> >> I've saw this on e-bay, a Cooke
> Amotal like
> >> mine:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> http://cgi.ebay.es/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310115966255
> >> >>
> >> >> On the advertising it is a link showing
> the
> >> pictures with
> >> >> this lens, I saw it... and this is my
> Gallery with
> >> this
> >> >> lens!, please look at "Please visit
> this
> >> link..."
> >> >>
> >> >> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=848443
> >> >>
> >> >> What do you think? it is correct ?
> >> >>
> >> >> Of course internet is a open window to
> the
> >> world...., but I
> >> >> didn't expect this...
> >> >>
> >> >> Saludos cordiales
> >> >> Lluis
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
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