Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/11/29
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]IANAL, but I followed with interest that the supreme court in "DC vs Heller" (2008), affirmed that the 2nd amendment is an INDIVIDUAL right (as the 1st amendment), specifically including self-defense within the home as within the scope of the 2nd amendment. it's an important ruling because as i understoood it, the supreme court had not given guidance as to the scope of the 2nd amendment for over 50 years. this is the decision: http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf -rei On Nov29 20:23, Lottermoser George wrote: > It seems > most people > like to bypass > "WELL REGULATED" > in the language > of the second amendment; > which reads, > "A well regulated Militia, > being necessary to the security of a free State, > the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, > shall not be infringed." > > At the moment > many of our gun owners > (most especially the criminal elements) > are neither "well regulated" > nor a member of any "militia" > > Fond regards, > George > > george@imagist.com > http://www.imagist.com > http://www.imagist.com/blog > http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist > > > > On Nov 29, 2008, at 8:12 PM, Bruce Burnett wrote: > >> Ted, >> >> The Bill of Rights, of which the "right to bear arms" is amendment >> two, were >> proposed in 1789, well after the Revolutionary War, and final approval >> was >> obtained in 1791. I know of no one from the western US who will >> voluntarily >> turn their guns in. They consider the ownership of guns as a basic >> right. >> I myself do not any weapons other than a fly rod or two. >> >> Bruce >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lug-bounces+buddybru=msn.com@leica-users.org >> [mailto:lug-bounces+buddybru=msn.com@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Ted >> Grant >> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 6:42 PM >> To: 'Leica Users Group' >> Subject: RE: [Leica] Gun Photos >> >> Actually I think if the people and politicians were to understand the >> British really aren't coming, there wouldn't be any reason for all the >> guns. >> >> >> As I believe the reason for the "everyone has the right to bare >> whatever" >> evolved due to the imminent attack by the English some where around >> 1776? Or >> close to that? So the Good Fore Fathers thought it a fine idea for the >> population to "bare arms!" If only that was what they meant, it >> would've >> been great today! :-) But they meant guns!!! >> >> Like I said, if maybe the population were informed by CNN or FOX NEWS >> aaaaaaaaaackkkkkkkk that the English called off the re-claiming >> attack >> everyone might put their "weapons" in for re-cycle to plow shares! >> Seems a >> fair enough reason. >> >> >> >> ted >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca@leica-users.org >> [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Ken >> Carney >> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 5:16 PM >> To: 'Leica Users Group' >> Subject: RE: [Leica] Gun Photos >> >> >> >>> I haven't seen a firearms magazine for a number of years, but I do >>> recall >> >>> a >> >>> very high standard of photos by one particular photographer. I think >>> that >> >>> his name was Ichiro Nagata. Or similar to that. Maybe worth >>> searching for >> >>> if >> >>> interested. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Cheers >> >>> Geoff >> >>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e >> >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/ >> >>> Pick up your camera and make the best photo you can. >> >> >> >> Yep, photographer for "The American Rifleman" and others. In the day >> he >> >> used an 8x10 Deardorf. A master of product photography, I would say. >> I >> >> recall his work since my 16th birthday present was a life membership in >> the >> >> NRA. Our Constitution is a masterpiece, and the founding fathers were >> >> without doubt geniuses. But, if I had a time machine, I would go back >> and >> >> ask two questions: (1) Do we really need that part about a well- >> regulated >> >> militia? And (2) I still think we need something in case a moron gets >> >> elected President (the latter courtesy of the New Yorker). >> >> >> >> Ken >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Leica Users Group. >> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1819 - Release Date: >> 11/29/2008 >> 10:37 AM >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Rei Shinozuka shino@panix.com Ridgewood, New Jersey