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Subject: [Leica] ... and Some Thoughts on the M3
From: luisripoll at telefonica.net (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Sat Nov 1 17:38:59 2008
References: <627626.92152.qm@web86705.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <68701249-6F28-44F4-949C-665D4E900488@telefonica.net> <51D0A9DCC19F400E8E2C2015D01780C1@robertbxucevjs>

Thanks Robert,

The SBOII is the ony one I don't have and I think I should buy one,

Saludos cordiales
Lluis


El 02/11/2008, a las 0:23, Robert Meier escribi?:

> That works that way with the IIIf with the 50mm finder too.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lluis Ripoll" 
> <luisripoll@telefonica.net 
> >
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 6:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] ... and Some Thoughts on the M3
>
>
> Frank,
>
> If you've never tried the external vf SGVOO (for 90) I suggest to try
> it, it is reallya pleasurecompose with it. Another thing I like on the
> M3 and M's is that the VF is clean, no distracting LEDS, and with the
> external VF still more "clean".
>
> Saludos cordiales
> Lluis
>
>
> El 01/11/2008, a las 18:39, FRANK DERNIE escribi?:
>
>> Hi Lluis,
>> I forgot to mention that I like the M3 finder best too, and I  
>> agree,  I have no problem using external finers for WA lenses!
>> OTOH I only use the M8 now and the framelines are miles out at   
>> normal distances, my only real complaint.
>> Frank
>>
>>
>> --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Lluis Ripoll <luisripoll@telefonica.net> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Lluis Ripoll <luisripoll@telefonica.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] ... and Some Thoughts on the M3
>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 3:35 PM
>>> Hi Frank, and also to Hoppy
>>>
>>> I'm absolutely agree, the onky reason is economy and
>>> maybe I should
>>> add marketing. When Leitz has isssued the very nice camera
>>> M6J, IMO
>>> they has losst a great opportunity, they has do it it with
>>> M6 VF
>>> instead to re-buid an actual M3 vf, another advantage of
>>> this one is
>>> that it never flare, the M6 vf it flares, the VF of the MP
>>> is quasi
>>> perfect, my MP is 0,85x, and I've paid 400 Euros to
>>> Solms to upgrade
>>> the vf of my M6TTL to the same of the MP.
>>>
>>> I'm using M3 after 1989 and I continue thinking that it
>>> is the best vf
>>> Leica has created, for 21-24-28-35 no problem, there are
>>> excellent
>>> extrrnal viewfinders, on my experience I compose better the
>>> image with
>>> the SBLOO (for 35mm) and SLOOZ (for 28mm), even with the
>>> SGVOO (90
>>> mm), than with the M's brighlines viewfinders.
>>>
>>> I don't know with the M8 framelines, they look very
>>> small for a 50,
>>> neither I don't knowif it flare or it is improved as on
>>> the MP.
>>>
>>> Saludos cordiales
>>> Lluis
>>>
>>>
>>> El 01/11/2008, a las 15:47, FRANK DERNIE escribi?:
>>>
>>>> Hi Lluis,
>>>> I am fairly sure the reason the M3 rangefinder is no
>>> longer made is
>>>> that it was quite notably more expensive to make than
>>> the M2 type.
>>>> The M2 was made as an "economy" model with a
>>> wider angle of view but
>>>> a less precise but less expensive rangefinder. Since
>>> many
>>>> photographers preferred a 35mm lens it became possible
>>> to
>>>> standardise on the M2 style without owner complaint.
>>>> Today , if you need a new viewfinder in your M3 they
>>> have to fit a
>>>> higher magnification M2 style viewfinder since the M3
>>> type ran out
>>>> years ago.
>>>> There are pictures and drawings of the differences in
>>> books I own,
>>>> tha M3 really is a more expensive item under the skin
>>> than
>>>> subsequent M Leicas.
>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Lluis Ripoll
>>> <luisripoll@telefonica.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From: Lluis Ripoll
>>> <luisripoll@telefonica.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] ... and Some Thoughts on the
>>> M3
>>>>> To: "Leica Users Group"
>>> <lug@leica-users.org>
>>>>> Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 10:57 AM
>>>>> Frank,
>>>>>
>>>>> I rarey use my 1,25x, IMO they "eat"
>>> some
>>>>> brilliance.
>>>>>
>>>>> About the M3 VF, I've never understod why
>>> Leica did not
>>>>> remake it on a
>>>>> modern version
>>>>>
>>>>> Saludos cordiales
>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>
>>>>> El 31/10/2008, a las 7:17, Frank Filippone
>>> escribi?:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree with the improvement using the 1.25 (
>>> I do not
>>>>> have a 1.4, but
>>>>>> believe it will work as well....)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, the 1.4 costs as much as almost any
>>> other
>>>>> manufacturer's
>>>>>> SLR 50mm
>>>>>> lens.... !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess glass is glass at Leica...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frank Filippone
>>>>>> red735i@earthlink.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The magnifiers are VERY helpful with critical
>>> DoF on
>>>>> the 50 and up
>>>>>> wide open
>>>>>> as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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