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Subject: [Leica] ... and Some Thoughts on the M3
From: frank.dernie at btinternet.com (FRANK DERNIE)
Date: Sat Nov 1 10:39:25 2008

Hi Lluis,
I forgot to mention that I like the M3 finder best too, and I agree, I have 
no problem using external finers for WA lenses!
OTOH I only use the M8 now and the framelines are miles out at normal 
distances, my only real complaint.
Frank


--- On Sat, 1/11/08, Lluis Ripoll <luisripoll@telefonica.net> wrote:

> From: Lluis Ripoll <luisripoll@telefonica.net>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] ... and Some Thoughts on the M3
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 3:35 PM
> Hi Frank, and also to Hoppy
> 
> I'm absolutely agree, the onky reason is economy and
> maybe I should  
> add marketing. When Leitz has isssued the very nice camera
> M6J, IMO  
> they has losst a great opportunity, they has do it it with
> M6 VF  
> instead to re-buid an actual M3 vf, another advantage of
> this one is  
> that it never flare, the M6 vf it flares, the VF of the MP
> is quasi  
> perfect, my MP is 0,85x, and I've paid 400 Euros to
> Solms to upgrade  
> the vf of my M6TTL to the same of the MP.
> 
> I'm using M3 after 1989 and I continue thinking that it
> is the best vf  
> Leica has created, for 21-24-28-35 no problem, there are
> excellent  
> extrrnal viewfinders, on my experience I compose better the
> image with  
> the SBLOO (for 35mm) and SLOOZ (for 28mm), even with the
> SGVOO (90  
> mm), than with the M's brighlines viewfinders.
> 
> I don't know with the M8 framelines, they look very
> small for a 50,  
> neither I don't knowif it flare or it is improved as on
> the MP.
> 
> Saludos cordiales
> Lluis
> 
> 
> El 01/11/2008, a las 15:47, FRANK DERNIE escribi?:
> 
> > Hi Lluis,
> > I am fairly sure the reason the M3 rangefinder is no
> longer made is  
> > that it was quite notably more expensive to make than
> the M2 type.  
> > The M2 was made as an "economy" model with a
> wider angle of view but  
> > a less precise but less expensive rangefinder. Since
> many  
> > photographers preferred a 35mm lens it became possible
> to  
> > standardise on the M2 style without owner complaint.
> > Today , if you need a new viewfinder in your M3 they
> have to fit a  
> > higher magnification M2 style viewfinder since the M3
> type ran out  
> > years ago.
> > There are pictures and drawings of the differences in
> books I own,  
> > tha M3 really is a more expensive item under the skin
> than  
> > subsequent M Leicas.
> > Frank
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Lluis Ripoll
> <luisripoll@telefonica.net> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Lluis Ripoll
> <luisripoll@telefonica.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] ... and Some Thoughts on the
> M3
> >> To: "Leica Users Group"
> <lug@leica-users.org>
> >> Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 10:57 AM
> >> Frank,
> >>
> >> I rarey use my 1,25x, IMO they "eat"
> some
> >> brilliance.
> >>
> >> About the M3 VF, I've never understod why
> Leica did not
> >> remake it on a
> >> modern version
> >>
> >> Saludos cordiales
> >> Lluis
> >>
> >> El 31/10/2008, a las 7:17, Frank Filippone
> escribi?:
> >>
> >>> I agree with the improvement using the 1.25 (
> I do not
> >> have a 1.4, but
> >>> believe it will work as well....)
> >>>
> >>> However, the 1.4 costs as much as almost any
> other
> >> manufacturer's
> >>> SLR 50mm
> >>> lens.... !
> >>>
> >>> I guess glass is glass at Leica...
> >>>
> >>> Frank Filippone
> >>> red735i@earthlink.net
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The magnifiers are VERY helpful with critical
> DoF on
> >> the 50 and up
> >>> wide open
> >>> as well.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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