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Subject: [Leica] ... and Some Thoughts on the M3
From: luisripoll at telefonica.net (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Sat Nov 1 08:36:06 2008
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Hi Frank, and also to Hoppy

I'm absolutely agree, the onky reason is economy and maybe I should  
add marketing. When Leitz has isssued the very nice camera M6J, IMO  
they has losst a great opportunity, they has do it it with M6 VF  
instead to re-buid an actual M3 vf, another advantage of this one is  
that it never flare, the M6 vf it flares, the VF of the MP is quasi  
perfect, my MP is 0,85x, and I've paid 400 Euros to Solms to upgrade  
the vf of my M6TTL to the same of the MP.

I'm using M3 after 1989 and I continue thinking that it is the best vf  
Leica has created, for 21-24-28-35 no problem, there are excellent  
extrrnal viewfinders, on my experience I compose better the image with  
the SBLOO (for 35mm) and SLOOZ (for 28mm), even with the SGVOO (90  
mm), than with the M's brighlines viewfinders.

I don't know with the M8 framelines, they look very small for a 50,  
neither I don't knowif it flare or it is improved as on the MP.

Saludos cordiales
Lluis


El 01/11/2008, a las 15:47, FRANK DERNIE escribi?:

> Hi Lluis,
> I am fairly sure the reason the M3 rangefinder is no longer made is  
> that it was quite notably more expensive to make than the M2 type.  
> The M2 was made as an "economy" model with a wider angle of view but  
> a less precise but less expensive rangefinder. Since many  
> photographers preferred a 35mm lens it became possible to  
> standardise on the M2 style without owner complaint.
> Today , if you need a new viewfinder in your M3 they have to fit a  
> higher magnification M2 style viewfinder since the M3 type ran out  
> years ago.
> There are pictures and drawings of the differences in books I own,  
> tha M3 really is a more expensive item under the skin than  
> subsequent M Leicas.
> Frank
>
>
> --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Lluis Ripoll <luisripoll@telefonica.net> wrote:
>
>> From: Lluis Ripoll <luisripoll@telefonica.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] ... and Some Thoughts on the M3
>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 10:57 AM
>> Frank,
>>
>> I rarey use my 1,25x, IMO they "eat" some
>> brilliance.
>>
>> About the M3 VF, I've never understod why Leica did not
>> remake it on a
>> modern version
>>
>> Saludos cordiales
>> Lluis
>>
>> El 31/10/2008, a las 7:17, Frank Filippone escribi?:
>>
>>> I agree with the improvement using the 1.25 ( I do not
>> have a 1.4, but
>>> believe it will work as well....)
>>>
>>> However, the 1.4 costs as much as almost any other
>> manufacturer's
>>> SLR 50mm
>>> lens.... !
>>>
>>> I guess glass is glass at Leica...
>>>
>>> Frank Filippone
>>> red735i@earthlink.net
>>>
>>>
>>> The magnifiers are VERY helpful with critical DoF on
>> the 50 and up
>>> wide open
>>> as well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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