Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/10/18

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Subject: [Leica] software licensing question
From: hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Sat Oct 18 20:48:42 2008
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Steve, no it won't! Have a look in your camera bag! As to your fear on Leica
going out of business, I sure hope that you are wrong! I think that Dr
Kaufmann is pretty serious about his commitment to Leica. I don't expect
that they plan to rely on the S system as their bread and butter though.
Meanwhile, I'll take all of the quality I can get. 


Cheers
Geoff
Aber Masse kann Klasse nicht ersetzen....Aber die R10 kommt. 
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/

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Subject: Re: [Leica] software licensing question


On Oct 18, 2008, at 7:56 PM, Robert Meier wrote:

> Quantity can't replace quality.


nice thought, but it can and it will if it becomes so unaffordable that it
will go out of business...


Steve


>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Hopkinson" 
> <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au
> >
> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 6:46 PM
> Subject: RE: [Leica] software licensing question
>
>
>> Hmm, that's a pretty negative take on it! There is a whole speech in 
>> the middle dealing with the new S system. There are also several 
>> superb new M lenses. I thought that Leica had a very good Photokina 
>> myself. I was just taken with the German alliteration of Masse-Klasse 
>> especially. I read the translation of the speech from the original 
>> German with Google translate, since my smattering of high school 
>> German is definitely not up to the task
>> ;-)
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Geoff
>> Aber Masse kann Klasse nicht ersetzen....Aber die R10 kommt.
>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
>> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Steve Barbour
>> Sent: Sunday, 19 October 2008 09:06
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] software licensing question
>>
>>
>> On Oct 18, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Douglas Sharp wrote:
>>
>>> Steve,
>>>
>>> Literally - high-volume production is no alternative to high-class 
>>> production - The R10 is on its way
>>
>>
>> nothing like making the apology before the camera...
>>
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Douglas
>>>
>>> Steve Barbour wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 18, 2008, at 3:22 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Keep on  upgrading, I really hope that you mean CS3 and CS4! I 
>>>>> have my preorder in for CS4.
>>>>> Check the upgrade options, often upgrades from earlier cost no 
>>>>> more than from the current(at least for a period). Or you can get 
>>>>> the current suite with a free upgrade to the latest when it hits 
>>>>> the streets.
>>>>> I have a melange of suites and upgrades and components here. My PS
>>>>> CS3
>>>>> baulked at upgrading the PS part of my CS2 suite but was happy to 
>>>>> accept the serial number of my earlier stand alone CS.
>>>>>
>>>>> By the way, I initially thought of CS4 as primarily a means of 
>>>>> moving to the latest Raw support. However when you dive in it 
>>>>> looks to have a lot of very good improvements.
>>>>
>>>> please tell us a little about these if you would Geoff...
>>>>
>>>> also what does the German phrase below mean, why in German?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Geoff
>>>>> Aber Masse kann Klasse nicht ersetzen....Aber die R10 kommt.
>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
>>>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of lug
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 19 October 2008 01:38
>>>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] software licensing question
>>>>>
>>>>> Aah, the fine print.  Thanks Brian!
>>>>>
>>>>> leo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 18, 2008, at 9:23 AM, Brian Reid wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> No. That is in violation of the Terms and Conditions in the 
>>>>>> upgrade contract.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so if i buy an upgrade for photoshop 4,  can i sell my upgrade 
>>>>>>> version of photoshop 3 to someone who wants to upgrade from 
>>>>>>> photoshop 2?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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