Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/09/17
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Edward Caliguri offered: Subject: Re: [Leica] Who will purchase the 21 and 24 mm ? >> but my point is that , for my humble intents and purposes, I like to get in close with a wide,; photograph the action there. With a Rangefinder wide at these speeds (and I use a 'old' Noct and like it) you'll need the external viewfinder, and to monitor your focus, the photographer will constantly be shifting from external finder to rangefinder. Even with an 'add on eyepiece', the DOF will be nil, and focus best be right on the money, and this may prove troublesome. They are large pieces of glass as well. <<<<<<<<< Hi Edward, Have you ever tried this viewfinder trick when working with a 21mm or wider on an M camera? Instead of switching back and forth between the external viewfinder and internal focusing, you use only the internal viewfinder? Yep the external finder is there just in case. In this fashion you always keep your main subject as centre to the rangefinder as possible constantly keeping them in focus. at any aperture. No you can't see the complete 21mm image coverage. However by keeping the main body of the scene centered in the rangefinder you know the image is much wider coverage and not likely are you going to miss anything. >>>Wide open at f/1.4, shooting within a group of moving people, I'm constantly framing and focusing with different finders.<<< You can to some degree depending on the moment, avoid using both simply by keeping the main subject in the rangefinder patch, you'll not miss anything. And given it sounds like you are an experienced shooter you'll know instinctively when to use the external finder if necessary. But having worked in maddening crowd situations on federal election campaigns chasing the Prime Minister I can assure you this simple exercise can be very helpful with no loss of important images working directly with the internal rangefinder only. Do I work using this method all the time when using a 21mm or wider? No, generally only in the fast moving maddening crowd situations and occasionally street stuff. I trust you may find this helpful. ted I can see Mehrdad's point; we don't know how they will perform. I as well know the Canon's are miserable, but my point is that , for my humble intents and purposes, I like to get in close with a wide,; photograph the action there. With a Rangefinder wide at these speeds (and I use a 'old' Noct and like it) you'll need the external viewfinder, and to monitor your focus, the photographer will constantly be shifting from external finder to rangefinder. Even with an 'add on eyepiece', the DOF will be nil, and focus best be right on the money, and this may prove troublesome. They are large pieces of glass as well. My point essentially is that I am both an M and R user - and using the M with a 21, 24 or 28 I like to get the grab shot right in the center of the action. With the current 2.8 and 2.0 objectives, I can pre-focus, use f/8.0 or f/5.6, even f/4.0, get right in there and shoot away. I can do that also with the new glass; but then I am paying for light I am not using. Hence the thought that I'd rather have them in an R version on my DMR (or better R10) than on my M8/8.2. Wide open at f/1.4, shooting within a group of moving people, I'm constantly framing and focusing with different finders. See my point? Then there are the 'corner cyan blues' to contend with - maybe. Edward -- Edward J. Caliguri ejcaliguri@comcast.net _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1674 - Release Date: 9/16/2008 8:15 AM