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Subject: [Leica] RE: Finding things in LR2 and working with DNG files
From: hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Mon Aug 18 15:48:24 2008
References: <842286.85078.qm@web82101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Bob, I have no experience with LR or LR2 beyond a brief trial but would like
to add comment on your remarks regarding DNG. I use Bridge and ACR. If you
are shooting DNG and import with the setting 'convert to DNG' the files take
a little longer to process, however you get the large advantage that the
files are LOSSLESSLY compressed in the process, saving around fifty percent
on the file sizes with no degradation at all. The resultant DNG files were
initially not recognised by Capture One (my other Raw processor) owing to
different implementations of DNG handling. However, the current version
Capture One Four is perfectly happy with them too. That gives me a choice of
Raw converters if I want to experiment and refine. Different philosophies
regarding camera profiles, subtly different detail extracted and different
colour palettes too. 

Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: Finding things in LR2,was: Re: [Leica] Is Lightroom 2.0 Really
Shipping?

Only caution is if you do this with a camera that produces a DNG file as its
RAW file (e.g., M8). I did this the first time (converted a DNG file into a
DNG file) and, though I can't remember the specific results, it wasn't
pretty.
Bob
?Bob Adler
Palo Alto, CA
http://www.raflexions.com



----- Original Message ----
From: Nathan Wajsman <photo@frozenlight.eu>
To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:35:57 PM
Subject: Re: Finding things in LR2, was: Re: [Leica] Is Lightroom 2.0 Really
Shipping?

Hi Richard,

All my RAW files reside in one big directory on an external HD. When I? 
import them into LR, I use the "copy to DNG" option. This converts the? 
RAW file to DNG and stores the DNG in a directory on my HD that I have? 
specified. Just one big folder. The RAW files are never touched again,? 
they are there just for backup. The DNG folder is not organized in any? 
way. All the organization takes place using this Collections feature? 
of LR. This is good enough for me. If your needs are different, you? 
can (like Tina) assign keywords and various other pieces of metadata? 
on which you can search later if needed.

Nathan

Nathan Wajsman
Alicante, Spain
http://www.frozenlight.eu
http://www.greatpix.eu
http://www.nathanfoto.com

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On Aug 18, 2008, at 7:20 AM, Richard Man wrote:

> Things are sounding better :-) Thanks for the info.
>
> So what do people normally do? Do they still suck the RAW files in? 
> some sort of folder systems (e.g. by date and or event) or just pull? 
> them into a big directory (may be by year) and let LR handle them?
>
> At 09:25 PM 8/17/2008, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>> Richard,
>>
>> You can group images in LR in a number of ways. Tina uses metadata so
>> she can search. I group the images into Collections. These are not
>> folders, just a feature of the LR database. So, all my images from
>> Berlin are in the (surprise) Berlin collection, etc. My pictures from
>> Alicante are assigned to one big collection called Alicante Life, but
>> within it there are sub-collections, like Semana Santa 2008 etc. The
>> assignment is done by simply dragging images to the collection in the
>> Library module. All this is independent of the physical location of
>> the files.
>>
>> Nathan
>>
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>
>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 17, 2008, at 11:33 PM, Richard Man wrote:
>>
>>> At 02:19 PM 8/17/2008, Tina Manley wrote:
>>>
>>>> AMEN!? I resisted switching to LR for database management until 2.0
>>>> and kept stubbornly separating all of my photos into folders based
>>>> on country and subject.? With 2.0, I don't have to do that.
>>>> Everything is in one catalog - almost 20,000 photos so far - and it
>>>> is much easier to find everything and to work on what I need to
>>>> than it used to be with folder-based files.? Lightroom is amazingly
>>>> fast on both my laptop and desktop.? If I give it time to build 1:1
>>>> previews before I start working on the photos, there are no hitches
>>>> in viewing everything at 100% to edit and apply development? 
>>>> settings.
>>>
>>> Tina, I have to admit that I delete most of this thread, so apology
>>> if this is already covered - so how does one find an image? Do you
>>> tell LR to group things in some ways?
>>>
>>> I downloaded LR 2.0 trial and have to admit that there is some kind
>>> of learning curve that is not apparent to me currently.
>
> // richard (This email is for mailing lists. To reach me directly,? 
> please use richard at imagecraft.com)
>
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Replies: Reply from images at comporium.net (Tina Manley) ([Leica] RE: Finding things in LR2 and working with DNG files)
In reply to: Message from rgacpa at yahoo.com (Bob Adler) (Finding things in LR2, was: Re: [Leica] Is Lightroom 2.0 Really Shipping?)