Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/03/02
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Are you saying Ted doesn't meter? > Which, with some 60 years of experience, would certainly describe Ted. ;-) > > > On 3/2/07 10:12 PM, "Robert Meier" <robertmeier@usjet.net> wrote: > >> >> Don, >> >> I have no trouble believing that. I was just a bit surprised. I know >> photographers who don't meter at all, but know how to set the exposure >> accurately because they know the light and the film they are using very, >> very well. >> >> Robert >> >> >>> Robert, >>> What you don't see is that Ted is the master of his craft. Meaning, >>> take >>> a >>> meter reading from what? I have watched Ted shoot casually in Cape Cod >>> and >>> he is truly a master of choosing what to meter from even with an M7. I >>> am >>> not even sure that he is conscious of what he is doing. Truly, light, >>> eyes, >>> action, shoot. >>> >>> Don >>> don.dory@gmail.com >>> >>> On 3/2/07, Robert Meier <robertmeier@usjet.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Ted, >>>> >>>> So what you are saying is that you shot at the film maker's recommended >>>> exposure index (except when pushing the film), and developed it at the >>>> developer maker's recommended time and temperature, for your whole >>>> career, >>>> and never saw any need to vary either one? And you always used an >>>> average >>>> exposure reading without taking specific shadow or highlight readings? >>>> >>>> That is certainly keeping it simple. >>>> >>>> Robert >>>> >>>> >>>>> Many have offered great details and how one should "do it" on this >>>>> subject. >>>>> Subject: [Leica] re: Exposure and Development >>>>> >>>>> However. :-) >>>>> As many of you know I'm no more techie with film, "expose for shadows >>>> soup >>>>> for whatever" than I am with digital... my gosh far worse with >>>>> digital. >>>>> Shooting slide film? In that case I expose for the highlight and >>>>> everything else ended up wherever it ended up. Always seemed to work. >>>> :-) >>>>> >>>>> B&W film was very nearly always rated at the manufacturers ASA and >>>> souped >>>>> for their specs. Unless I pushed a stop or two, but then the times >>>>> were >>>>> those recommended by the maker of the film. Usually. >>>>> >>>>> And it always seemed to work OK. The quality of the negatives never >>>>> deterred us from making lots of 35mm 16X20 exhibition prints out of >>>>> our >>>>> darkroom trays over the years. Certainly doing as I always >>>> have.......... >>>>> "KISS!" >>>>> >>>>> If the film how to soup instruction was 6 mins. @ 70 degrees, >>>>> agitation >>>>> every 30 secs, that was fine and that's what was done. Close anyway. >>>>> ;-) >>>>> But they always seemed to look OK and print just fine. >>>>> >>>>> George Lottermoser said: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> The point I wished to make in starting this thread: >>>>>> Fine photographic technique requires that the photographer >>>> 'know' where >>>>>> s/he wants shadows and highlights fall on the negative, transparency >>>>>> and/or chip. This requires knowledge of how to control the shadows >>>>>> and >>>>>> highlights through the use of exposure and development of the >>>> material, >>>>>> whether chemical or digital.<<<< >>>>> >>>>> Maybe I do this unconsciously just from years of exposing and souping >>>>> my >>>>> film. But I can honestly say I've never consciously related to >>>>> exposing >>>>> for shadows and souping for highlights or vice versa or whichever it's >>>>> supposed to be. Maybe the tooth fairy has always looked after me in >>>>> the >>>>> darkroom. Or maybe I just hate complications and live life with a KISS >>>>> attitude. If it works? "Cool" as the young folks say today! :-) If I >>>>> screw-up? Well the standard expression fits......... "Oh S.....t!" >>>>> >>>>> My gut feelings about this expose develop routine comes down to major >>>>> simple this way............. it really doesn't matter how the heck >>>>> other >>>>> soul's do their film! It's far more important ..... "HOW YOU DO YOURS! >>>>> " >>>>> You know why? >>>>> >>>>> Each person turns the can upside down differently, they agitate with >>>>> various actions, the temperature isn't on the mark in everyone's tank, >>>> nor >>>>> are the times absolutely to the second identical! It's really, to each >>>> his >>>>> own and never mind doing as others do, but use their technique as a >>>>> guideline. Gradually you'll find it works for you or it doesn't! >>>>> Eventually you'll achieve the results "YOU" like! But we each and >>>>> everyone, never soup nor expose absolutely identical! >>>>> >>>>> KISS folks that's what it's all about for each shooter. Oh and souper! >>>> ;-) >>>>> >>>>> ted >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >