Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/03/02
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Which, with some 60 years of experience, would certainly describe Ted. ;-) On 3/2/07 10:12 PM, "Robert Meier" <robertmeier@usjet.net> wrote: > > Don, > > I have no trouble believing that. I was just a bit surprised. I know > photographers who don't meter at all, but know how to set the exposure > accurately because they know the light and the film they are using very, > very well. > > Robert > > >> Robert, >> What you don't see is that Ted is the master of his craft. Meaning, take >> a >> meter reading from what? I have watched Ted shoot casually in Cape Cod >> and >> he is truly a master of choosing what to meter from even with an M7. I am >> not even sure that he is conscious of what he is doing. Truly, light, >> eyes, >> action, shoot. >> >> Don >> don.dory@gmail.com >> >> On 3/2/07, Robert Meier <robertmeier@usjet.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Ted, >>> >>> So what you are saying is that you shot at the film maker's recommended >>> exposure index (except when pushing the film), and developed it at the >>> developer maker's recommended time and temperature, for your whole >>> career, >>> and never saw any need to vary either one? And you always used an >>> average >>> exposure reading without taking specific shadow or highlight readings? >>> >>> That is certainly keeping it simple. >>> >>> Robert >>> >>> >>>> Many have offered great details and how one should "do it" on this >>>> subject. >>>> Subject: [Leica] re: Exposure and Development >>>> >>>> However. :-) >>>> As many of you know I'm no more techie with film, "expose for shadows >>> soup >>>> for whatever" than I am with digital... my gosh far worse with digital. >>>> Shooting slide film? In that case I expose for the highlight and >>>> everything else ended up wherever it ended up. Always seemed to work. >>> :-) >>>> >>>> B&W film was very nearly always rated at the manufacturers ASA and >>> souped >>>> for their specs. Unless I pushed a stop or two, but then the times were >>>> those recommended by the maker of the film. Usually. >>>> >>>> And it always seemed to work OK. The quality of the negatives never >>>> deterred us from making lots of 35mm 16X20 exhibition prints out of our >>>> darkroom trays over the years. Certainly doing as I always >>> have.......... >>>> "KISS!" >>>> >>>> If the film how to soup instruction was 6 mins. @ 70 degrees, agitation >>>> every 30 secs, that was fine and that's what was done. Close anyway. >>>> ;-) >>>> But they always seemed to look OK and print just fine. >>>> >>>> George Lottermoser said: >>>> >>>> >>>>> The point I wished to make in starting this thread: >>>>> Fine photographic technique requires that the photographer >>> 'know' where >>>>> s/he wants shadows and highlights fall on the negative, transparency >>>>> and/or chip. This requires knowledge of how to control the shadows >>>>> and >>>>> highlights through the use of exposure and development of the >>> material, >>>>> whether chemical or digital.<<<< >>>> >>>> Maybe I do this unconsciously just from years of exposing and souping >>>> my >>>> film. But I can honestly say I've never consciously related to exposing >>>> for shadows and souping for highlights or vice versa or whichever it's >>>> supposed to be. Maybe the tooth fairy has always looked after me in the >>>> darkroom. Or maybe I just hate complications and live life with a KISS >>>> attitude. If it works? "Cool" as the young folks say today! :-) If I >>>> screw-up? Well the standard expression fits......... "Oh S.....t!" >>>> >>>> My gut feelings about this expose develop routine comes down to major >>>> simple this way............. it really doesn't matter how the heck >>>> other >>>> soul's do their film! It's far more important ..... "HOW YOU DO YOURS! >>>> " >>>> You know why? >>>> >>>> Each person turns the can upside down differently, they agitate with >>>> various actions, the temperature isn't on the mark in everyone's tank, >>> nor >>>> are the times absolutely to the second identical! It's really, to each >>> his >>>> own and never mind doing as others do, but use their technique as a >>>> guideline. Gradually you'll find it works for you or it doesn't! >>>> Eventually you'll achieve the results "YOU" like! But we each and >>>> everyone, never soup nor expose absolutely identical! >>>> >>>> KISS folks that's what it's all about for each shooter. Oh and souper! >>> ;-) >>>> >>>> ted >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information