Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/01/14

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Subject: [Leica] There's something about German design ...
From: philippe.orlent at pandora.be (Philippe Orlent)
Date: Sun Jan 14 12:41:31 2007
References: <617EDB1E-2D9B-49A5-B256-675A6D20ECFA@home.netspeed.com.au> <6d8cb16ebf98e212fb891cf2ccc2deb5@woh.rr.com> <DBDB1E15-2D00-47AC-A7E8-9E66C2A2D102@home.netspeed.com.au>

Yep. Miele is expensive. Better buy their somewhat lower positioned  
but still German and almost equally well engineered Bosch and AEG  
cousins.
And never buy SMEG for other things than furnaces: they're just  
rebadged very Italian Zanussis.

Philippe




Op 14-jan-07, om 21:11 heeft Rick Dykstra het volgende geschreven:

> As much as  I dread that word 'bypass' - recipe for disaster - I'm  
> considering doing it in fixing my dishwasher.  Google tells me the  
> proper solenoid will be $350 kangabucks.  Say $300 hollywoodbucks.   
> eek!
>
> Rick.
>
> On 15/01/2007, at 1:43 AM, Rob McClure wrote:
>
>> I dunno.  I love well-engineered things as much as most (BMW,  
>> Omega, Mont Blanc, etc.), but sometimes items can be over- 
>> engineered.  As an example, our home came with a Clare Megasave  
>> furnace.  This is a Canadian unit, quite unique to my Ohio  
>> location (the nearest dealer is 80 miles away).  Initially I had  
>> trouble with it failing to start and my neighbor, a retired  
>> Westinghouse electrical engineer and mechanical genius, came over  
>> to help.  The electronic controls were unbelievably complex with  
>> all kinds of redundancy built in to meet the high standards  
>> dictated by Canada, where severe winters can cause a catastrophe  
>> in the case of furnace failure.  Unfortunately one of the backup  
>> features was conflicting the circuit and keeping the furnace from  
>> consistently starting.  He bypassed the backups and it has worked  
>> perfectly these past 15 years.
>>
>> Rob McClure
>>
>>
>> On Jan 14, 2007, at 6:46 AM, Rick Dykstra wrote:
>>
>>> I spent today slowly pulling our Miele dishwasher apart, to  
>>> figure out why its not filling fully.  I think it's the  
>>> solenoid.  Not just any solenoid, but part of a failsafe twin  
>>> solenoid leak-proof disaster safe design.  And having seen the  
>>> insides of this thing now, by golly what a beautifully designed  
>>> well made, repairable bit of gear.  An absolute contrast to the  
>>> Australian made Vulcan gas heater I pulled apart last winter  
>>> (worn out fan).  And the Miele vacuum cleaner I pulled apart last  
>>> year was also great to work on (worn out carbon brushes).
>>>
>>> So why is it that Germans are such good industrial designers?   
>>> It's as if they know their work will be appreciated when  
>>> customers finally need to fix the thing.  :-)
>>>
>>> Impressed I am.
>>>
>>> Rick.
>>>
>>
>>
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Replies: Reply from Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com (Frank Dernie) ([Leica] There's something about German design ...)
In reply to: Message from rdandcb at home.netspeed.com.au (Rick Dykstra) ([Leica] There's something about German design ...)
Message from rmcclure2 at woh.rr.com (Rob McClure) ([Leica] There's something about German design ...)
Message from rdandcb at home.netspeed.com.au (Rick Dykstra) ([Leica] There's something about German design ...)